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From: Don A Roof on 5 Feb 2010 11:22
I've decided to give stack and tilt a serious try and am using the book
by Bennett and Plummer to try to get a grasp of it. I didn't have much
success with the Golf Digest article but I didn't give it much of a
chance either.

I remember several here tried it awhile back and some with some success.
I remember some reporting problems with it and the one I remember most
is how the swing worked (or didn't work) with the driver. I have
reservations about that as well.

I would appreciate any advice on the swing; reflections; shortcomings or
benefits; just about anything that might help me in picking it up or
even just forgetting about it.

From: Don A Roof on 5 Feb 2010 15:16

Loudon Briggs wrote:
"...Those who posted the information here are probably gone, Don. You'll
probably have to go to some other Group for an answer as this is a
political site now..."

<chuckle!!>

You have a point, Loudon, however I think that some of the same guys
still monitor the group - or even participate. Thought that I'd take a
shot since I first found out about stack and tilt right here....

From: dugjustdug on 5 Feb 2010 16:37
On Feb 5, 12:54 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> For me, I'd always had trouble making good contact. I was too much a
> picker of the ball and if I was off on a shot, the results were both
> skulls and chunks. So I tried S&T; thinking that if I didn't move
> laterally during the swing, it would improve my chances of arriving back
> to impact with the clubhead in the correct position.

Alan - I wonder if that was partly a function of the soggier turf you
regularly play. I would have nothing but trouble playing coastal
courses because I was used to getting a bit of bounce from the turf.
(I, too, am a picker/sweeper of the ball.)

Don - I could see where the agressive Ball First nature of S&T would
work very well if you have a case of the fatties like I regularly do
when I first play mushier courses. Like Alan closed with - find would
works with the swing that brung ya.

(Take that, Loudon! :-P)
From: Loudon Briggs on 5 Feb 2010 21:38
dugjustdug <prestigerealty(a)yvn.com> wrote:

>On Feb 5, 12:54�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>> For me, I'd always had trouble making good contact. I was too much a
>> picker of the ball and if I was off on a shot, the results were both
>> skulls and chunks. So I tried S&T; thinking that if I didn't move
>> laterally during the swing, it would improve my chances of arriving back
>> to impact with the clubhead in the correct position.
>
>Alan - I wonder if that was partly a function of the soggier turf you
>regularly play. I would have nothing but trouble playing coastal
>courses because I was used to getting a bit of bounce from the turf.
>(I, too, am a picker/sweeper of the ball.)
>
>Don - I could see where the agressive Ball First nature of S&T would
>work very well if you have a case of the fatties like I regularly do
>when I first play mushier courses. Like Alan closed with - find would
>works with the swing that brung ya.
>
>(Take that, Loudon! :-P)

With Alan giving a positive answer too, I AM slightly chastened! :)
--

Loudon R. Briggs larebe(a)bbz.net Phoenix, AZ

"How Can You Not Like A Game Where It's Okay To
Get Teed Off, Tote A Six-Iron, Shoot Birdies,
and If You're Under Par It's A Great Day!"

(from "Frank & Ernest" by Bob Thaves -- used with permission)
From: David Laville on 5 Feb 2010 21:57
On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:54:20 -0800, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net>
wrote:

>I tried it, and it was useful to me for only a short while.
>
>For me, I'd always had trouble making good contact. I was too much a
>picker of the ball and if I was off on a shot, the results were both
>skulls and chunks.

Wow, this is truly amazing! When you posted a link to your swing vid
and I looked at it I said you had clubhead throwaway and were
susceptible to hitting fat shots. Remember what you told me? I was
wrong, didn't know what I was talking about and that you didn't hit
the ball fat. In fact you boasted about your contact.

Thanks for proving me right and that you're a liar.

>So I tried S&T;

Why? You told me how sound and mechanically correct your swing was.
Why try to change something you claimed to do correctly?

> thinking that if I didn't move
>laterally during the swing, it would improve my chances of arriving back
>to impact with the clubhead in the correct position.

Wait, let me try to grasp this.....your mechanically correct swing had
a lateral move? Surely if this lateral move was in your mechanically
correct swing than it must have been correct as well, right?

>And it did give me that. But I could never get as comfortable with it
>for the long irons and not at all with the woods -- particularly off the
>tee. So for a brief while, it was S&T with the short to mid irons, and
>conventional swings with the woods (and mostly hope not to need to hit a
>long iron). This wasn't really a stable balance. :-)

So you, Mr. Know It All, the man who thinks he's smarter than everyone
else in the world about everything, including the golf swing, thought
the solution was to play with two golf swings instead of one? It's
hard enough to learn one golf swing why try to learn and play with two
if you don't even have the first one half way mastered?

>Now I make much better contact with my swing without any S&T at
>all.

So Mr. Know It All had to experience something to know it didn't work
while I was able to use knowledge alone to know it didn't work.

David Laville G.S.E.M.
The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor
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