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From: William Clark on 19 Feb 2010 14:54 In article <7u8053FjpnU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b7dc848$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:37:13 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:4b7c8dfa$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:52 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>>> In article <0t7on5lbbttudhhau9iikvt05d3vnouve4(a)4ax.com>, > >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >>>>>>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis > >>>>>>> <xsleeper(a)aol.com> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with > >>>>>>>> absolute certainty that the current warming trend is being > >>>>>>>> caused by humans. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there wouldn't be > >>>>>>> any argument. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will have none > >>>>>> of that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from > >>>>>> being settled. > >>>>> > >>>>> My point is that the opinions voiced here are by people who don't > >>>>> have access, nor understanding of the factors in the argument. > >>>> > >>>> You are kidding, I hope. > >>>> > >>>> I know when someone is feeding me a line of BS and trying to steal > >>>> money out of my wallet. Global Warming/Climate Change is BS and a > >>>> money grab. > >>> > >>> You don't like AGW because you disagree with the politics of many of > >>> its supporters. You have absolutely no idea what the real truth is. > >>> You're like a child. > >> > >> LOL Mr. Kettle. > > > > You need to learn to read. I have said here over and over again that I > > do not know to what extent, if any, AGW exists. Neither do any of you > > zealots. And yet, you're all so certain you're right. > > > > How is it, Mike, that you and all your right-wing friends can be so > > certain that so many climatologists are wrong, when hardly any of you > > have any expertise in the area? Please just tell me that. How are you so > > sure? > > I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying they're > certain its happening. Wrong, it is the scientists that indicate that it is happening. Simply playing your anti-liberal card won't wash here.
From: William Clark on 19 Feb 2010 14:55 In article <7u84g7Fd98U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:37d972cd-c259-47e4-8688-a541aca7c1ee(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 19, 12:30 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > news:4b7dc848$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:37:13 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > >> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > >>news:4b7c8dfa$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:52 -0500, BAR wrote: > > >>>> In article <0t7on5lbbttudhhau9iikvt05d3vnou...(a)4ax.com>, > > >>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>>><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > >>>>>>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com... > > >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis > > >>>>>>> <xslee...(a)aol.com> > > > > >>>>>>>> Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with > > >>>>>>>> absolute certainty that the current warming trend is being > > >>>>>>>> caused by humans. > > > > >>>>>>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there wouldn't be > > >>>>>>> any argument. > > > > >>>>>> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will have none > > >>>>>> of that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from > > >>>>>> being settled. > > > > >>>>> My point is that the opinions voiced here are by people who don't > > >>>>> have access, nor understanding of the factors in the argument. > > > > >>>> You are kidding, I hope. > > > > >>>> I know when someone is feeding me a line of BS and trying to steal > > >>>> money out of my wallet. Global Warming/Climate Change is BS and a > > >>>> money grab. > > > > >>> You don't like AGW because you disagree with the politics of many of > > >>> its supporters. You have absolutely no idea what the real truth is. > > >>> You're like a child. > > > > >> LOL Mr. Kettle. > > > > > You need to learn to read. I have said here over and over again that I > > > do not know to what extent, if any, AGW exists. Neither do any of you > > > zealots. And yet, you're all so certain you're right. > > > > > How is it, Mike, that you and all your right-wing friends can be so > > > certain that so many climatologists are wrong, when hardly any of you > > > have any expertise in the area? Please just tell me that. How are you so > > > sure? > > > > I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying they're > > certain its happening.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > And nobody on the right says they're certain it's not happening? > > ================================== > No, there are some who claim that of course. Really? I can think of several in this ng alone who declare it is not with absolute certainty.
From: William Clark on 19 Feb 2010 14:56 In article <7u7vm5Fh0fU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:wclark2-AEC9D8.19514018022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <MPG.25e78f8b4d577ea989bed(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >> In article <7cacc895-61da-42fa-865a-aba9c7065ec4 > >> @q29g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > >> > > > Please pass along this fact to the IPCC and the "climatologist" who > >> > > > believe history started with the industrial revolution and that the > >> > > > billions of years of Earth's existence and climatic cycles that > >> > > > preceded > >> > > > 1850 should be studied too. > >> > > > >> > > > Was CO2 and the Earths temperature ever greater than it is now and > >> > > > why?- > >> > > > Hide quoted text - > >> > > > >> > > > - Show quoted text - > >> > > > >> > > They don't believe history started with the industrial revolution. > >> > > They believe GHG emissions started with the industrial revolution. > >> > > > >> > > ---------------------------- > >> > > > >> > > Volcanoes started with the industrial revolution?- Hide quoted text - > >> > > > >> > > - Show quoted text - > >> > > >> > OK, Mike, anthropogenic GHG emissions started w/the industrial > >> > revolution. > >> > > >> > >> I would think that methane has been increasing due to the increase in > >> the production of cattle as a managed food product. > > > > Actually that methane is noting compared to the flatulence you are > > creating on this topic. > > noting? Better get that spell-checker fixed. No, better get my fingers fixed.
From: William Clark on 19 Feb 2010 14:57 In article <7u80baFksjU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > news:clark-813DC1.08171019022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <MPG.25e84d54eacf5224989c0a(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >> In article <wclark2-9F05E0.22121818022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > As an honorable man, I'm sure that you'll publically retract it. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> All of the news reports on air and in the newspaper were on the > >> > > >> subject of the coming ice age. > >> > > >> > >> > > >> If anything is to blame it is the MSM. > >> > > > > >> > > > See what I mean, Jim? > >> > > > >> > > I'd rather start out with the assumption that the person I'm > >> > > responding > >> > > to > >> > > is honest. If I'm wrong, he'll demonstrate it himself. And it will > >> > > be a > >> > > lot more credible than if I *claim* he's dishonest. > >> > > >> > > >> > When you have been around here a while, you will be left in no doubt on > >> > that one. > >> > >> Jim, just to let you know Billy Clark is an admitted liar. Therefore his > >> dishonesty has already been proven. > > > > So, tell us about that "proof" you had that Dino published in the > > materials science journals. Bit of a whopper, that was, wasn't it? > > Nice deflection. You'd make a great goalie. No deflection - if he wants to call me a liar, he had better come clean on his own lies. People who live in glass houses . . .
From: William Clark on 19 Feb 2010 14:57
In article <7nftn5l82tgsq303pdv7g0m5uj9i2r1f1n(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:18:29 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >In article <wclark2-7FE069.19393518022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >> > >> In article <MPG.25e790c12b2f5efc989bee(a)news.giganews.com>, > >> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >> No, we are talking about events we can control. Do you drive your car > >> blindfold just because there is a chance that some red neck in a truck > >> will run a red light and broadside you, and you can do nothing about it? > >> That is beyond your control, but you sure as hell don't resign control > >> of your car just because it is. > > > >We do not live on a planet where we control everything or much of > >anything. If you want to return to an existence where you live in a cave > >and you gather berries and hunt small animals for your daily sustenance > >no one is stopping you. > > Whoooooooooosh..... > > BK Amen :-) |