From: William Clark on
In article <7u8053FjpnU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4b7dc848$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:37:13 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:
> >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:4b7c8dfa$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:52 -0500, BAR wrote:
> >>>> In article <0t7on5lbbttudhhau9iikvt05d3vnouve4(a)4ax.com>,
> >>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >>>>>>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com...
> >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis
> >>>>>>> <xsleeper(a)aol.com>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with
> >>>>>>>> absolute certainty that the current warming trend is being
> >>>>>>>> caused by humans.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there wouldn't be
> >>>>>>> any argument.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will have none
> >>>>>> of that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from
> >>>>>> being settled.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My point is that the opinions voiced here are by people who don't
> >>>>> have access, nor understanding of the factors in the argument.
> >>>>
> >>>> You are kidding, I hope.
> >>>>
> >>>> I know when someone is feeding me a line of BS and trying to steal
> >>>> money out of my wallet. Global Warming/Climate Change is BS and a
> >>>> money grab.
> >>>
> >>> You don't like AGW because you disagree with the politics of many of
> >>> its supporters. You have absolutely no idea what the real truth is.
> >>> You're like a child.
> >>
> >> LOL Mr. Kettle.
> >
> > You need to learn to read. I have said here over and over again that I
> > do not know to what extent, if any, AGW exists. Neither do any of you
> > zealots. And yet, you're all so certain you're right.
> >
> > How is it, Mike, that you and all your right-wing friends can be so
> > certain that so many climatologists are wrong, when hardly any of you
> > have any expertise in the area? Please just tell me that. How are you so
> > sure?
>
> I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying they're
> certain its happening.

Wrong, it is the scientists that indicate that it is happening. Simply
playing your anti-liberal card won't wash here.
From: William Clark on
In article <7u84g7Fd98U1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:37d972cd-c259-47e4-8688-a541aca7c1ee(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 19, 12:30 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:4b7dc848$0$4977$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 09:37:13 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:
> > >> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:4b7c8dfa$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > >>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 19:33:52 -0500, BAR wrote:
> > >>>> In article <0t7on5lbbttudhhau9iikvt05d3vnou...(a)4ax.com>,
> > >>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says...
> > >>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > >>>>>>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com...
> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis
> > >>>>>>> <xslee...(a)aol.com>
> >
> > >>>>>>>> Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with
> > >>>>>>>> absolute certainty that the current warming trend is being
> > >>>>>>>> caused by humans.
> >
> > >>>>>>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there wouldn't be
> > >>>>>>> any argument.
> >
> > >>>>>> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will have none
> > >>>>>> of that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from
> > >>>>>> being settled.
> >
> > >>>>> My point is that the opinions voiced here are by people who don't
> > >>>>> have access, nor understanding of the factors in the argument.
> >
> > >>>> You are kidding, I hope.
> >
> > >>>> I know when someone is feeding me a line of BS and trying to steal
> > >>>> money out of my wallet. Global Warming/Climate Change is BS and a
> > >>>> money grab.
> >
> > >>> You don't like AGW because you disagree with the politics of many of
> > >>> its supporters. You have absolutely no idea what the real truth is.
> > >>> You're like a child.
> >
> > >> LOL Mr. Kettle.
> >
> > > You need to learn to read. I have said here over and over again that I
> > > do not know to what extent, if any, AGW exists. Neither do any of you
> > > zealots. And yet, you're all so certain you're right.
> >
> > > How is it, Mike, that you and all your right-wing friends can be so
> > > certain that so many climatologists are wrong, when hardly any of you
> > > have any expertise in the area? Please just tell me that. How are you so
> > > sure?
> >
> > I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying they're
> > certain its happening.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> And nobody on the right says they're certain it's not happening?
>
> ==================================
> No, there are some who claim that of course.

Really? I can think of several in this ng alone who declare it is not
with absolute certainty.
From: William Clark on
In article <7u7vm5Fh0fU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:wclark2-AEC9D8.19514018022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <MPG.25e78f8b4d577ea989bed(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <7cacc895-61da-42fa-865a-aba9c7065ec4
> >> @q29g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >> > > > Please pass along this fact to the IPCC and the "climatologist" who
> >> > > > believe history started with the industrial revolution and that the
> >> > > > billions of years of Earth's existence and climatic cycles that
> >> > > > preceded
> >> > > > 1850 should be studied too.
> >> > >
> >> > > > Was CO2 and the Earths temperature ever greater than it is now and
> >> > > > why?-
> >> > > > Hide quoted text -
> >> > >
> >> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >> > >
> >> > > They don't believe history started with the industrial revolution.
> >> > > They believe GHG emissions started with the industrial revolution.
> >> > >
> >> > > ----------------------------
> >> > >
> >> > > Volcanoes started with the industrial revolution?- Hide quoted text -
> >> > >
> >> > > - Show quoted text -
> >> >
> >> > OK, Mike, anthropogenic GHG emissions started w/the industrial
> >> > revolution.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I would think that methane has been increasing due to the increase in
> >> the production of cattle as a managed food product.
> >
> > Actually that methane is noting compared to the flatulence you are
> > creating on this topic.
>
> noting? Better get that spell-checker fixed.

No, better get my fingers fixed.
From: William Clark on
In article <7u80baFksjU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> news:clark-813DC1.08171019022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> > In article <MPG.25e84d54eacf5224989c0a(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <wclark2-9F05E0.22121818022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> >> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >> > > >> >
> >> > > >> > As an honorable man, I'm sure that you'll publically retract it.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> All of the news reports on air and in the newspaper were on the
> >> > > >> subject of the coming ice age.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> If anything is to blame it is the MSM.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > See what I mean, Jim?
> >> > >
> >> > > I'd rather start out with the assumption that the person I'm
> >> > > responding
> >> > > to
> >> > > is honest. If I'm wrong, he'll demonstrate it himself. And it will
> >> > > be a
> >> > > lot more credible than if I *claim* he's dishonest.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > When you have been around here a while, you will be left in no doubt on
> >> > that one.
> >>
> >> Jim, just to let you know Billy Clark is an admitted liar. Therefore his
> >> dishonesty has already been proven.
> >
> > So, tell us about that "proof" you had that Dino published in the
> > materials science journals. Bit of a whopper, that was, wasn't it?
>
> Nice deflection. You'd make a great goalie.

No deflection - if he wants to call me a liar, he had better come clean
on his own lies. People who live in glass houses . . .
From: William Clark on
In article <7nftn5l82tgsq303pdv7g0m5uj9i2r1f1n(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:

> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:18:29 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <wclark2-7FE069.19393518022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> >state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >>
> >> In article <MPG.25e790c12b2f5efc989bee(a)news.giganews.com>,
> >> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >> No, we are talking about events we can control. Do you drive your car
> >> blindfold just because there is a chance that some red neck in a truck
> >> will run a red light and broadside you, and you can do nothing about it?
> >> That is beyond your control, but you sure as hell don't resign control
> >> of your car just because it is.
> >
> >We do not live on a planet where we control everything or much of
> >anything. If you want to return to an existence where you live in a cave
> >and you gather berries and hunt small animals for your daily sustenance
> >no one is stopping you.
>
> Whoooooooooosh.....
>
> BK

Amen :-)
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