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From: William Clark on 19 Feb 2010 14:58 In article <7u7vriFi27U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > news:clark-F1F3A2.08180819022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <MPG.25e84ba1abf707b4989c07(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >> In article <wclark2-7FE069.19393518022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >> > > >> > In article <MPG.25e790c12b2f5efc989bee(a)news.giganews.com>, > >> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > In article <clark-DCE75A.08133518022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >> > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Please pass along this fact to the IPCC and the "climatologist" > >> > > > > who > >> > > > > believe history started with the industrial revolution and that > >> > > > > the > >> > > > > billions of years of Earth's existence and climatic cycles that > >> > > > > preceded > >> > > > > 1850 should be studied too. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Was CO2 and the Earths temperature ever greater than it is now > >> > > > > and > >> > > > > why? > >> > > > > >> > > > Which, of course, really hs nothing to do with anything. It is only > >> > > > the > >> > > > Sarah Palins of the world that believe the dinosaurs impacted man > >> > > > (because they walked on earth together), and the dinosaurs died > >> > > > out. > >> > > > The > >> > > > purpose of the contemporary concern with climate is to make sure > >> > > > that > >> > > > man doesn't suffer the same fate because of his own ignorance. > >> > > > >> > > Talk about hubris. > >> > > > >> > > What happens if 1997 XF11 changes its path slightly and impacts the > >> > > earth in 2028? > >> > > > >> > > We are at the mercy of events completely and totally beyond our > >> > > control. > >> > > >> > No, we are talking about events we can control. Do you drive your car > >> > blindfold just because there is a chance that some red neck in a truck > >> > will run a red light and broadside you, and you can do nothing about > >> > it? > >> > That is beyond your control, but you sure as hell don't resign control > >> > of your car just because it is. > >> > >> We do not live on a planet where we control everything or much of > >> anything. If you want to return to an existence where you live in a cave > >> and you gather berries and hunt small animals for your daily sustenance > >> no one is stopping you. > > > > Change of subject - good, clearly an admission of defeat. > > Clearly <rolls eyes>. Glad you saw it, too ;-)
From: William Clark on 19 Feb 2010 14:59 In article <7u80f4Fli6U1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > news:wclark2-E847FA.19482218022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <7u5se0Fp7pU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > >> news:7c367a86-319c-4dc0-b889-295421c86eef(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com... > >> On Feb 18, 3:11 pm, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > >> > > >> > news:clark-81577F.14252318022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > In article <7u5a50Fd4...(a)mid.individual.net>, > >> > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in > >> > >> message > >> > >>news:clark-0771DB.11075018022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >> > >> > In article <7u55f1Fhn...(a)mid.individual.net>, > >> > >> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> >> "William Clark" <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > >> > >> >>news:wclark2-5A4756.22020617022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu.. > >> > >> >>. > >> > >> >> > In article <wHUen.74969$RS6.11...(a)newsfe15.iad>, > >> > >> >> > "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> >> >> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >> > >> >> >>news:4b7c1584$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> > >> >> >> > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:20:58 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > >> > >> >> >> >> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >> > >> >> >> >>news:7ihmn5lgj229dobctt1r6atpqcq0rurdcu(a)4ax.com... > >> > >> >> >> >>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:16:01 -0500, Jack Hollis > >> > >> >> >> >>> <xslee...(a)aol.com> > >> > >> >> >> >>> wrote: > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >>>>Show me the place in the IPCC report where it says with > >> > >> >> >> >>>>absolute > >> > >> >> >> >>>>certainty that the current warming trend is being caused > >> > >> >> >> >>>>by > >> > >> >> >> >>>>humans. > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >>> There IS no absolute certainty either way or there > >> > >> >> >> >>> wouldn't > >> > >> >> >> >>> be > >> > >> >> >> >>> any > >> > >> >> >> >>> argument. > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> Exactly Bobby, but the ideologues in the AGW crowd will > >> > >> >> >> >> have > >> > >> >> >> >> none > >> > >> >> >> >> of > >> > >> >> >> >> that! The science is settled they spew. But it is far from > >> > >> >> >> >> being > >> > >> >> >> >> settled. > >> > > >> > >> >> >> > Since it's far from settled, you can't exactly say AGW is > >> > >> >> >> > wrong, > >> > >> >> >> > now > >> > >> >> >> > can > >> > >> >> >> > you? > >> > > >> > >> >> >> You can't say that AGW doesn't occur. You also can't say that > >> > >> >> >> AGW > >> > >> >> >> does > >> > >> >> >> occur. > >> > > >> > >> >> >> The AGW crowd is wrong in the sense that they have been saying > >> > >> >> >> for > >> > >> >> >> years > >> > >> >> >> that the science is settled and AGW is happening. It was and > >> > >> >> >> is a > >> > >> >> >> lie > >> > >> >> >> plain > >> > >> >> >> and simple promoted for political reasons masquerading behind > >> > >> >> >> faulty > >> > >> >> >> "science". > >> > > >> > >> >> > No they have not been saying it is "settled". > >> > > >> > >> >> You truely are an idiot. > >> > > >> > >> > "Truely"? OK. show me where the science is "settled". > >> > > >> > >> It isnt. But somebody might want to tell Al Gore that. > >> > > >> > > You clearly have a quote from him claiming that the science is > >> > > "settled"? > >> > > >> > The science is settled, Gore told the lawmakers. Carbon-dioxide > >> > emissions - > >> > from cars, power plants, buildings and other sources - are heating the > >> > Earth's atmosphere. > >> > > >> > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9047642- Hide > >> > quoted > >> > text - > >> > > >> > - Show quoted text - > >> > >> For climate change deniers, it's much easier to beat up on Al Gore > >> than to study and respond to the science. But frankly, I don't blame > >> them. He's arrogant and self-righteous and he does his cause more harm > >> than good in my view. > >> > >> ==================================== > >> > >> You honestly think calling people skeptical of AGW "deniers" is helping > >> your > >> cause? There are plenty of skeptical people who have studied the science. > > > > They are deniers because they are skeptics first and foremost, based > > solely on their political prejudice. Denial to them is much more > > important than examining the actual data - in fact they deny without > > even looking at the data. So they have given up any claim to be treated > > as intelligent or credible. They get whatever comes their way. > > You are clueless. QED.
From: R&B on 19 Feb 2010 18:33 On 2010-02-14 18:53:04 -0500, BAR said: > This about puts the final nail in the coffin of AGW. snip Do you EVER post about golf? Have you EVER posted about golf? Randy
From: BAR on 19 Feb 2010 18:57 In article <2010021918332716807-noneofyourbusiness(a)allcom>, none_of_your_business(a)all.com says... > > On 2010-02-14 18:53:04 -0500, BAR said: > > > This about puts the final nail in the coffin of AGW. > snip > > > Do you EVER post about golf? > > Have you EVER posted about golf? > > Randy About as much as you lately.
From: Carbon on 20 Feb 2010 06:30
On Sat, 20 Feb 2010 05:33:06 +0000, assimilate wrote: > On 19-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>> I never said I was sure. It's mainly the left-wing crowd saying >>> they're certain its happening. >> >> And nobody on the right says they're certain it's not happening? > > only the straw men on the right you create. Bullshit. |