From: dsc-ky on
On Jul 19, 1:56 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
state.edu> wrote:
> In article
> <b0f1dc13-3802-4f95-ab60-2868e5ab0...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > On Jul 18, 2:12 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> > > In article <MPG.26ac099effc188d498a...(a)news.giganews.com>,
>
> > >  BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <alangbaker-442F6C.15502117072...(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> > > > alangba...(a)telus.net says...
>
> > > > > In article <8a8jvoFdf...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > > > >  "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >news:22d39422-590d-4b9a-8f8e-8e6a3152d2dd(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com..
> > > > > >.
> > > > > > On Jul 15, 7:57 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > In article <7860b860-9880-45f3-bed8-571b47fafa25
> > > > > > > @w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
> > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 9:47 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, Anonymous <cri...(a)ecn.org> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > GET HE DUNG REID OUT.
>
> > > > > > > > > Oh man, would I ever love it if Reid was shown the door.
>
> > > > > > > > > Ken
>
> > > > > > > > I'm no fan of Harry Reid, but this Angle woman is a wack-job.
>
> > > > > > > And, Reid isn't a whack job?
>
> > > > > > Angle is no different from Tim McVeigh, except that she hasn't blown
> > > > > > anything up. She said the government should be overthrown through an
> > > > > > armed insurrection. Do you know of anything Reid has said that's
> > > > > > comparable to that?
> > > > > > -----------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > She didn't exactly say that.
>
> > > > > >   You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in
> > > > > > there
> > > > > > for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves
> > > > > > against
> > > > > > a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > country to have a revolution every 20 years.
>
> > > > > >   I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this
> > > > > > Congress
> > > > > >   keeps
> > > > > > going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second
> > > > > > Amendment
> > > > > > remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country
> > > > > > around?
> > > > > > I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.
>
> > > > > So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK with
> > > > > that?
>
> > > > Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?
>
> > > Clearly, no.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > Is it really that clear cut.? I consider the health care bill
> > oppresive. He had a huge part in that.
>
> > dsc
>
> There you have it - you consider it "oppressive" - others consider it
> not radical enough. I think you are confusing "oppressive" with
> "unpalatable", and there is a clear difference.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money out of
out pockets... at the very least.
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0-c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote:

> On Jul 19, 1:56�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> state.edu> wrote:
> > In article
> > <b0f1dc13-3802-4f95-ab60-2868e5ab0...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > �dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > On Jul 18, 2:12�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > In article <MPG.26ac099effc188d498a...(a)news.giganews.com>,
> >
> > > > �BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article <alangbaker-442F6C.15502117072...(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> > > > > alangba...(a)telus.net says...
> >
> > > > > > In article <8a8jvoFdf...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > > > > > �"MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > >news:22d39422-590d-4b9a-8f8e-8e6a3152d2dd(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.c
> > > > > > >om..
> > > > > > >.
> > > > > > > On Jul 15, 7:57 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > In article <7860b860-9880-45f3-bed8-571b47fafa25
> > > > > > > > @w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 9:47 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, Anonymous <cri...(a)ecn.org> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > > > > > GET HE DUNG REID OUT.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Oh man, would I ever love it if Reid was shown the door.
> >
> > > > > > > > > > Ken
> >
> > > > > > > > > I'm no fan of Harry Reid, but this Angle woman is a wack-job.
> >
> > > > > > > > And, Reid isn't a whack job?
> >
> > > > > > > Angle is no different from Tim McVeigh, except that she hasn't
> > > > > > > blown
> > > > > > > anything up. She said the government should be overthrown through
> > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > armed insurrection. Do you know of anything Reid has said that's
> > > > > > > comparable to that?
> > > > > > > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > > > > > > She didn't exactly say that.
> >
> > > > > > > � You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > for a good reason and that was for the people to protect
> > > > > > > themselves
> > > > > > > against
> > > > > > > a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's
> > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > country to have a revolution every 20 years.
> >
> > > > > > > � I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this
> > > > > > > Congress
> > > > > > > � keeps
> > > > > > > going the way it is, people are really looking toward those
> > > > > > > Second
> > > > > > > Amendment
> > > > > > > remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this
> > > > > > > country
> > > > > > > around?
> > > > > > > I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid
> > > > > > > out.
> >
> > > > > > So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > that?
> >
> > > > > Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?
> >
> > > > Clearly, no.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > > Is it really that clear cut.? I consider the health care bill
> > > oppresive. He had a huge part in that.
> >
> > > dsc
> >
> > There you have it - you consider it "oppressive" - others consider it
> > not radical enough. I think you are confusing "oppressive" with
> > "unpalatable", and there is a clear difference.- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money out of
> out pockets... at the very least.

It makes them right because it doesn't meet the definition of
politically "oppressive".

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: dene on

"dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message
news:05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0-c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...

>
> There you have it - you consider it "oppressive" - others consider it
> not radical enough. I think you are confusing "oppressive" with
> "unpalatable", and there is a clear difference.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money out of
out pockets... at the very least.

-----------------------------------------------------------

The insured pay the uninsured medical bills. That's plenty of out of pocket
for the responsible insured. This distinction with O's plan is that the
uninsured slacker will have the choice to buy insurance or pay extra taxes.
Either way, they pay instead of us paying their bills for them.

-Greg


From: dsc-ky on
On Jul 19, 4:24 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0-c95b3d95e...(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > On Jul 19, 1:56 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> > state.edu> wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <b0f1dc13-3802-4f95-ab60-2868e5ab0...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>
> > >  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > > On Jul 18, 2:12 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > In article <MPG.26ac099effc188d498a...(a)news.giganews.com>,
>
> > > > >  BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > > In article <alangbaker-442F6C.15502117072...(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> > > > > > alangba...(a)telus.net says...
>
> > > > > > > In article <8a8jvoFdf...(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > > > > > >  "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > >news:22d39422-590d-4b9a-8f8e-8e6a3152d2dd(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.c
> > > > > > > >om..
> > > > > > > >.
> > > > > > > > On Jul 15, 7:57 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > In article <7860b860-9880-45f3-bed8-571b47fafa25
> > > > > > > > > @w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says....
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jul 14, 9:47 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, Anonymous <cri...(a)ecn.org> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > GET HE DUNG REID OUT.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Oh man, would I ever love it if Reid was shown the door.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Ken
>
> > > > > > > > > > I'm no fan of Harry Reid, but this Angle woman is a wack-job.
>
> > > > > > > > > And, Reid isn't a whack job?
>
> > > > > > > > Angle is no different from Tim McVeigh, except that she hasn't
> > > > > > > > blown
> > > > > > > > anything up. She said the government should be overthrown through
> > > > > > > > an
> > > > > > > > armed insurrection. Do you know of anything Reid has said that's
> > > > > > > > comparable to that?
> > > > > > > > -----------------------------------------
>
> > > > > > > > She didn't exactly say that.
>
> > > > > > > >   You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > > for a good reason and that was for the people to protect
> > > > > > > > themselves
> > > > > > > > against
> > > > > > > > a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's
> > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > country to have a revolution every 20 years.
>
> > > > > > > >   I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this
> > > > > > > > Congress
> > > > > > > >   keeps
> > > > > > > > going the way it is, people are really looking toward those
> > > > > > > > Second
> > > > > > > > Amendment
> > > > > > > > remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this
> > > > > > > > country
> > > > > > > > around?
> > > > > > > > I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid
> > > > > > > > out.
>
> > > > > > > So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > that?
>
> > > > > > Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?
>
> > > > > Clearly, no.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Is it really that clear cut.? I consider the health care bill
> > > > oppresive. He had a huge part in that.
>
> > > > dsc
>
> > > There you have it - you consider it "oppressive" - others consider it
> > > not radical enough. I think you are confusing "oppressive" with
> > > "unpalatable", and there is a clear difference.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money out of
> > out pockets... at the very least.
>
> It makes them right because it doesn't meet the definition of
> politically "oppressive".
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
> <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>

Politically oppressed
n.
1 The act of oppressing; arbitrary and cruel exercise of power: "There
can be no really pervasive system of oppression . . . without the
consent of the oppressed" (Florynce R. Kennedy).
2 The state of being oppressed. Something that oppresses.
3 A feeling of being heavily weighed down in mind or body.

I think it fits under #3...

From: dsc-ky on
..
> Either way, they pay instead of us paying their bills for them.
>
> -Greg

They may pay something (probably the cheaper of the two which will be
the fine). But that is not going to cover the costs or let the rest of
us off the hook.