From: Carbon on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:33:54 +0000, Moderate wrote:
> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:32:29 -0700, dene wrote:
>>> "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message
>>> news:05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0-
>>> c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>> So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money out
>>>> of out pockets... at the very least.
>>>
>>> The insured pay the uninsured medical bills. That's plenty of out
>>> of pocket for the responsible insured. This distinction with O's
>>> plan is that the uninsured slacker will have the choice to buy
>>> insurance or pay extra taxes. Either way, they pay instead of us
>>> paying their bills for them.
>>
>> There are other consequences. I worked with a fellow who had been
>> laid off for nearly a year due to the recession. He could not afford
>> COBRA and keep his family fed. He got cancer. He died last week.
>
> How does Obama's plan help your friend?

It doesn't. Universal healthcare would have helped him, but big
healthcare did everything they could to get that shot down.
From: BAR on
In article <wclark2-501CEE.17564620072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > What in God's name are you talking about? "Embarrassing" has nothing to
> > > do with it - he's a poor candidate. Period. Something that you could
> > > never be man enough to admit about Eskimo Barbie, but that's the
> > > difference between you wingnuts and those with an IQ.
> >
> > He is the choice of the Democrats in South Carolina to be their
> > candidate for Senator in the general election. Good or poor candidate
> > won't be determined until after the election.
>
> Yes, and Republicans in the same state elected Mark Sanford for their
> Governor. Do you see a pattern here between South Carolinians and their
> ability to handle elections like adults?
>

Now you are disparaging the entire state of South Carolina.

From: Moderate on
Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:33:54 +0000, Moderate wrote:
>> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:32:29 -0700, dene wrote:
>>>> "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message
>>>> news:05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0-
>>>> c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>> So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money
> > > > > out
>>>>> of out pockets... at the very least.
>>>>
>>>> The insured pay the uninsured medical bills. That's plenty of out
>>>> of pocket for the responsible insured. This distinction with O's
>>>> plan is that the uninsured slacker will have the choice to buy
>>>> insurance or pay extra taxes. Either way, they pay instead of us
>>>> paying their bills for them.
>>>
>>> There are other consequences. I worked with a fellow who had been
>>> laid off for nearly a year due to the recession. He could not afford
>>> COBRA and keep his family fed. He got cancer. He died last week.
>>
>> How does Obama's plan help your friend?
>
> It doesn't. Universal healthcare would have helped him, but big
> healthcare did everything they could to get that shot down.

Obama care is big health care. Actually, bigger health care.
From: Moderate on
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <wclark2-501CEE.17564620072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
>>>> What in God's name are you talking about? "Embarrassing" has
> > > > nothing to
>>>> do with it - he's a poor candidate. Period. Something that you
> > > > could
>>>> never be man enough to admit about Eskimo Barbie, but that's the
>>>> difference between you wingnuts and those with an IQ.
>>>
>>> He is the choice of the Democrats in South Carolina to be their
>>> candidate for Senator in the general election. Good or poor
> > > candidate
>>> won't be determined until after the election.
>>
>> Yes, and Republicans in the same state elected Mark Sanford for their
> >
>> Governor. Do you see a pattern here between South Carolinians and
> > their
>> ability to handle elections like adults?
>>
>
> Now you are disparaging the entire state of South Carolina.

He likes to avoid specifics.
From: John B. on
On Jul 20, 2:25 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>
> news:alangbaker-920CF5.09104620072010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>
>
>
> > In article <MPG.26af55fd1a11596b98a...(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >> In article <k1r9469e2p32o4bhjpb4ollsaeiu4s3...(a)4ax.com>,
> >> how...(a)brazee.net says...
>
> >> > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT), dsc-ky
> >> > <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
>
> >> > >Is it really that clear cut.? I consider the health care bill
> >> > >oppresive. He had a huge part in that.
>
> >> > How do you expect to be oppressed by it?
>
> >> > It switched how we pay for the poor from higher hospital costs (passed
> >> > on to our insurance companies), to higher taxes paying for insurance..
>
> >> > That's oppressive?  That's hardly different from what we are doing
> >> > now!
>
> >> The poor should be paying for their own health care just like they pay
> >> for their own food, cars, cell phone, plasma TVs, ....
>
> > This fantasy "poor" you've invented is solely so you can abdicate your
> > responsibilities as a human being.
>
> So you don't know any poor people?  You haven't ever seen a person paying
> for groceries with food stamps and talking on their cell phone?  Never seen
> a poor person play the lottery every week, smoke, drink, drug, drive or
> watch cable TV?

Cell phones are cheaper than land-line phones. How bad off does a
person have to be to earn your appellation as "poor?"