From: Carbon on 20 Jul 2010 19:33 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:33:54 +0000, Moderate wrote: > Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:32:29 -0700, dene wrote: >>> "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message >>> news:05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0- >>> c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>> So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money out >>>> of out pockets... at the very least. >>> >>> The insured pay the uninsured medical bills. That's plenty of out >>> of pocket for the responsible insured. This distinction with O's >>> plan is that the uninsured slacker will have the choice to buy >>> insurance or pay extra taxes. Either way, they pay instead of us >>> paying their bills for them. >> >> There are other consequences. I worked with a fellow who had been >> laid off for nearly a year due to the recession. He could not afford >> COBRA and keep his family fed. He got cancer. He died last week. > > How does Obama's plan help your friend? It doesn't. Universal healthcare would have helped him, but big healthcare did everything they could to get that shot down.
From: BAR on 20 Jul 2010 20:01 In article <wclark2-501CEE.17564620072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > What in God's name are you talking about? "Embarrassing" has nothing to > > > do with it - he's a poor candidate. Period. Something that you could > > > never be man enough to admit about Eskimo Barbie, but that's the > > > difference between you wingnuts and those with an IQ. > > > > He is the choice of the Democrats in South Carolina to be their > > candidate for Senator in the general election. Good or poor candidate > > won't be determined until after the election. > > Yes, and Republicans in the same state elected Mark Sanford for their > Governor. Do you see a pattern here between South Carolinians and their > ability to handle elections like adults? > Now you are disparaging the entire state of South Carolina.
From: Moderate on 20 Jul 2010 20:13 Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:33:54 +0000, Moderate wrote: >> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:32:29 -0700, dene wrote: >>>> "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message >>>> news:05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0- >>>> c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>>> So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money > > > > > out >>>>> of out pockets... at the very least. >>>> >>>> The insured pay the uninsured medical bills. That's plenty of out >>>> of pocket for the responsible insured. This distinction with O's >>>> plan is that the uninsured slacker will have the choice to buy >>>> insurance or pay extra taxes. Either way, they pay instead of us >>>> paying their bills for them. >>> >>> There are other consequences. I worked with a fellow who had been >>> laid off for nearly a year due to the recession. He could not afford >>> COBRA and keep his family fed. He got cancer. He died last week. >> >> How does Obama's plan help your friend? > > It doesn't. Universal healthcare would have helped him, but big > healthcare did everything they could to get that shot down. Obama care is big health care. Actually, bigger health care.
From: Moderate on 20 Jul 2010 20:15 BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <wclark2-501CEE.17564620072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >>>> What in God's name are you talking about? "Embarrassing" has > > > > nothing to >>>> do with it - he's a poor candidate. Period. Something that you > > > > could >>>> never be man enough to admit about Eskimo Barbie, but that's the >>>> difference between you wingnuts and those with an IQ. >>> >>> He is the choice of the Democrats in South Carolina to be their >>> candidate for Senator in the general election. Good or poor > > > candidate >>> won't be determined until after the election. >> >> Yes, and Republicans in the same state elected Mark Sanford for their > > >> Governor. Do you see a pattern here between South Carolinians and > > their >> ability to handle elections like adults? >> > > Now you are disparaging the entire state of South Carolina. He likes to avoid specifics.
From: John B. on 20 Jul 2010 20:18
On Jul 20, 2:25 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "Alan Baker" <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote in message > > news:alangbaker-920CF5.09104620072010(a)news.shawcable.com... > > > > > In article <MPG.26af55fd1a11596b98a...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > >> In article <k1r9469e2p32o4bhjpb4ollsaeiu4s3...(a)4ax.com>, > >> how...(a)brazee.net says... > > >> > On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 10:28:51 -0700 (PDT), dsc-ky > >> > <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote: > > >> > >Is it really that clear cut.? I consider the health care bill > >> > >oppresive. He had a huge part in that. > > >> > How do you expect to be oppressed by it? > > >> > It switched how we pay for the poor from higher hospital costs (passed > >> > on to our insurance companies), to higher taxes paying for insurance.. > > >> > That's oppressive? That's hardly different from what we are doing > >> > now! > > >> The poor should be paying for their own health care just like they pay > >> for their own food, cars, cell phone, plasma TVs, .... > > > This fantasy "poor" you've invented is solely so you can abdicate your > > responsibilities as a human being. > > So you don't know any poor people? You haven't ever seen a person paying > for groceries with food stamps and talking on their cell phone? Never seen > a poor person play the lottery every week, smoke, drink, drug, drive or > watch cable TV? Cell phones are cheaper than land-line phones. How bad off does a person have to be to earn your appellation as "poor?" |