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From: BAR on 21 Jul 2010 07:20 In article <01hc46pe0d9drkbp8su7qpdcarvkhili3t(a)4ax.com>, howard(a)brazee.net says... > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 17:18:46 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> So you don't know any poor people? �You haven't ever seen a person paying > >> for groceries with food stamps and talking on their cell phone? �Never seen > >> a poor person play the lottery every week, smoke, drink, drug, drive or > >> watch cable TV? > > > >Cell phones are cheaper than land-line phones. How bad off does a > >person have to be to earn your appellation as "poor?" > > Too poor to keep the tools needed to find a job???? What did people do before cell phones were invented? I assume nobody ever got a job. Oh, wait a minute, I got several jobs by using a land- line phone. Besides when hiring a person for an unskillied labor position I don't expect that he be available 24 x 7 on his cell phone. And, with my job my cell phone is provided by my employer so that my employer can contact me 24 x 7. If my employer did not provide me with the cell phone he would be leaving messages on my answering machine at home.
From: BAR on 21 Jul 2010 07:41 In article <alangbaker-DA11CF.22172320072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > > > > The poor should be paying for their own health care just like they pay > > > > for their own food, cars, cell phone, plasma TVs, .... > > > > > > This fantasy "poor" you've invented is solely so you can abdicate your > > > responsibilities as a human being. > > > > Call it whatever you want. I am not responsible for someone else's bad > > choice just like I am not entitled to benefit from someone else's good > > choices. > > > > If you want to talk about abdicating responsibilities as a human being I > > will assume that you have done just that due to the fact that you > > haven't given all of your means above your basic needs away to the poor. > > Nope. I recognize that we have a responsibility to help other people in > need because it is the right thing to do. That doesn't mean "giving all > of [one's] means above basic needs away". > > Look up "false dichotomy". > Where does your responsibility come from, to help others.
From: BAR on 21 Jul 2010 07:44 In article <v8jd46h1tk0ap2ckbe4dbfcrh8rtqa05fh(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On 21 Jul 2010 10:16:16 GMT, Moderate <nospam(a)nomail.com> wrote: > > > > > >The Obama economy is much worse than the Bush economy. > > He's doing his best to stem the Bush economy free fall that got us > here. Killing the private sector, the engine of job creation and wealth creation, is not doing his best unless you believe that his best is to destroy the country. The best thing for the current economy is tax cuts, tax cuts and more tax cuts. The government is not a job creator nor revenue generator. The government is a consumer.
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Jul 2010 07:47 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:36:03 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >>The Obama economy is much worse than the Bush economy. > >He's doing his best to stem the Bush economy free fall that got us >here. His best would include not expanding expensive foreign wars. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 21 Jul 2010 07:49
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 07:20:22 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> >Cell phones are cheaper than land-line phones. How bad off does a >> >person have to be to earn your appellation as "poor?" >> >> Too poor to keep the tools needed to find a job???? > >What did people do before cell phones were invented? I assume nobody >ever got a job. Oh, wait a minute, I got several jobs by using a land- >line phone. Besides when hiring a person for an unskillied labor >position I don't expect that he be available 24 x 7 on his cell phone. Land lines are more expensive than cell phones. Why would someone laid off of a job get rid of his cell phone under contract and install a more expensive land-line? -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison |