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From: Carbon on 21 Jul 2010 20:45 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 16:07:37 -0500, bknight wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:54:21 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > wrote: >> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >> news:3tie469u2r8hi2bd957nnm6prq1vvjhb67(a)4ax.com... >> >>> There is that in both parties. However, I don't recall anyone >>> accusing the Bush administration of corruption, just stupidity. >> >> I think Google could refresh your memory. > > Possibly, but in my memory I never heard anyone, anywhere, accuse Bush > of corruption. Bush personally? He wasn't smart enough to be corrupt. Cheney, Rumsfeld and the rest? Different story.
From: Carbon on 21 Jul 2010 20:46 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:16:16 +0000, Moderate wrote: > Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:13:26 +0000, Moderate wrote: >>> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:33:54 +0000, Moderate wrote: >>>>> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:32:29 -0700, dene wrote: >>>>>>> "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0- >>>>>>> c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money >>>>>>>> out of out pockets... at the very least. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The insured pay the uninsured medical bills. That's plenty of >>>>>>> out of pocket for the responsible insured. This distinction >>>>>>> with O's plan is that the uninsured slacker will have the choice >>>>>>> to buy insurance or pay extra taxes. Either way, they pay >>>>>>> instead of us paying their bills for them. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are other consequences. I worked with a fellow who had been >>>>>> laid off for nearly a year due to the recession. He could not >>>>>> afford COBRA and keep his family fed. He got cancer. He died last >>>>>> week. >>>>> >>>>> How does Obama's plan help your friend? >>>> >>>> It doesn't. Universal healthcare would have helped him, but big >>>> healthcare did everything they could to get that shot down. >>> >>> Obama care is big health care. Actually, bigger health care. >> >> How do you know his plan will cost more than the system it's >> replacing? Fox News? > > GAO Specifically?
From: Alan Baker on 21 Jul 2010 20:46 In article <8aot2iFtihU1(a)mid.individual.net>, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > news:clark-C91EB8.14105621072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article <8aojjaF2atU1(a)mid.individual.net>, > > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message > >> news:wclark2-37FA25.21090720072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > >> > In article <MPG.26b002fd77ab853398a140(a)news.giganews.com>, > >> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >> In article <wclark2-501CEE.17564620072010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > >> >> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > >> >> > > > What in God's name are you talking about? "Embarrassing" has > >> >> > > > nothing to > >> >> > > > do with it - he's a poor candidate. Period. Something that you > >> >> > > > could > >> >> > > > never be man enough to admit about Eskimo Barbie, but that's the > >> >> > > > difference between you wingnuts and those with an IQ. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > He is the choice of the Democrats in South Carolina to be their > >> >> > > candidate for Senator in the general election. Good or poor > >> >> > > candidate > >> >> > > won't be determined until after the election. > >> >> > > >> >> > Yes, and Republicans in the same state elected Mark Sanford for > >> >> > their > >> >> > Governor. Do you see a pattern here between South Carolinians and > >> >> > their > >> >> > ability to handle elections like adults? > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> Now you are disparaging the entire state of South Carolina. > >> > > >> > Well, it does seem that they could do with adult supervision when it > >> > comes to their politics. > >> > >> Same could be said about the voter fraud morons in Ohio. > > > > Cite, please? > > We've been over this before Billy boy. Do your own research for once in your > life. Run away, Mike! -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Carbon on 21 Jul 2010 20:47 On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 10:51:57 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4c465058$0$4974$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:13:26 +0000, Moderate wrote: >>> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:33:54 +0000, Moderate wrote: >>>>> Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:32:29 -0700, dene wrote: >>>>>>> "dsc-ky" <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:05db752e-22da-4c95-91c0- >>>>>>> c95b3d95e03f(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So what makes "others" right? It's going to mean a lot of money >>>>>>>> out of out pockets... at the very least. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The insured pay the uninsured medical bills. That's plenty of >>>>>>> out of pocket for the responsible insured. This distinction >>>>>>> with O's plan is that the uninsured slacker will have the choice >>>>>>> to buy insurance or pay extra taxes. Either way, they pay >>>>>>> instead of us paying their bills for them. >>>>>> >>>>>> There are other consequences. I worked with a fellow who had been >>>>>> laid off for nearly a year due to the recession. He could not >>>>>> afford COBRA and keep his family fed. He got cancer. He died last >>>>>> week. >>>>> >>>>> How does Obama's plan help your friend? >>>> >>>> It doesn't. Universal healthcare would have helped him, but big >>>> healthcare did everything they could to get that shot down. >>> >>> Obama care is big health care. Actually, bigger health care. >> >> How do you know his plan will cost more than the system it's >> replacing? Fox News? > > CBO. Specifically?
From: William Clark on 21 Jul 2010 20:53
In article <4c4793fd$0$5004$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:54:21 -0500, MNMikeW wrote: > > <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > news:3tie469u2r8hi2bd957nnm6prq1vvjhb67(a)4ax.com... > >> On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:25:10 -0500, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Guess there were a LOT of non-thinkers in here a couple years ago > then. > >>> > >> There is that in both parties. However, I don't recall anyone accusing > >> the Bush administration of corruption, just stupidity. > > > > I think Google could refresh your memory. Of course accusing the Obama > > administration of stupidity, would be, gasp, racist. > > You mean Obama personally? You do not get to be a law professor if you're > stupid. However, if your daddy's a senator, you sometimes do get to fly > fighter jets. As long as it isn't anywhere near the enemy. |