From: BAR on
In article <alangbaker-442F6C.15502117072010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
>
> In article <8a8jvoFdfaU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
> > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:22d39422-590d-4b9a-8f8e-8e6a3152d2dd(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> > On Jul 15, 7:57 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <7860b860-9880-45f3-bed8-571b47fafa25
> > > @w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jul 14, 9:47 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, Anonymous <cri...(a)ecn.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > > GET HE DUNG REID OUT.
> > >
> > > > > Oh man, would I ever love it if Reid was shown the door.
> > >
> > > > > Ken
> > >
> > > > I'm no fan of Harry Reid, but this Angle woman is a wack-job.
> > >
> > > And, Reid isn't a whack job?
> >
> > Angle is no different from Tim McVeigh, except that she hasn't blown
> > anything up. She said the government should be overthrown through an
> > armed insurrection. Do you know of anything Reid has said that's
> > comparable to that?
> > -----------------------------------------
> >
> > She didn't exactly say that.
> >
> > You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there
> > for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves against
> > a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good for a
> > country to have a revolution every 20 years.
>
>
>
> >
> > I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress keeps
> > going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second Amendment
> > remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country around?
> > I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.
>
> So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK with
> that?

Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?


From: Alan Baker on
In article <MPG.26ac099effc188d498a11d(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <alangbaker-442F6C.15502117072010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
> >
> > In article <8a8jvoFdfaU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> > "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> > > news:22d39422-590d-4b9a-8f8e-8e6a3152d2dd(a)d8g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
> > > On Jul 15, 7:57 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <7860b860-9880-45f3-bed8-571b47fafa25
> > > > @w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Jul 14, 9:47 pm, kenpitts <ken.p...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, Anonymous <cri...(a)ecn.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > > GET HE DUNG REID OUT.
> > > >
> > > > > > Oh man, would I ever love it if Reid was shown the door.
> > > >
> > > > > > Ken
> > > >
> > > > > I'm no fan of Harry Reid, but this Angle woman is a wack-job.
> > > >
> > > > And, Reid isn't a whack job?
> > >
> > > Angle is no different from Tim McVeigh, except that she hasn't blown
> > > anything up. She said the government should be overthrown through an
> > > armed insurrection. Do you know of anything Reid has said that's
> > > comparable to that?
> > > -----------------------------------------
> > >
> > > She didn't exactly say that.
> > >
> > > You know, our Founding Fathers, they put that Second Amendment in there
> > > for a good reason and that was for the people to protect themselves
> > > against
> > > a tyrannical government. And in fact Thomas Jefferson said it's good for
> > > a
> > > country to have a revolution every 20 years.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress
> > > keeps
> > > going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second
> > > Amendment
> > > remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country
> > > around?
> > > I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.
> >
> > So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK with
> > that?
>
> Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?

Not unless you are going to redefine every democratically elected
government that does something you don't like as "opressive".

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: John B. on
On Jul 17, 7:35 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <9d71926e-68b4-4eba-a73b-
> 01c1268af...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 16, 12:12 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <24ea92f5-8dbc-456c-9b10-
> > > 2589dc299...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says....
>
> > > > > Why is armed insurrection bad? Isn't it the duty of those governed to
> > > > > throw off the shackles of the government when the government becomes
> > > > > oppressive? #1 and #2 provide you with the ability to do this and isn't
> > > > > it amazing that our founders codified the rights of the people to do
> > > > > this?
>
> > > > The government has not become oppressive or anything remotely
> > > > resembling it. I don't think it's a bad thing that we've had orderly
> > > > changes of government every four years for 234 years without a shot
> > > > ever being fired.
>
> > > Let's start with the Whiskey Rebellion and the Civil War.
>
> > Neither of those prevented the reelection of the incumbent president.
>
> We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify. And,
> the government is moving towards being oppressive.

If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with
all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know what
oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or Saudi
Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt. is.
From: BAR on
In article <f506f38c-9023-4737-bb37-090763015b85
@q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>
> On Jul 17, 7:35�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > In article <9d71926e-68b4-4eba-a73b-
> > 01c1268af...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Jul 16, 12:12�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <24ea92f5-8dbc-456c-9b10-
> > > > 2589dc299...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > > > > > Why is armed insurrection bad? Isn't it the duty of those governed to
> > > > > > throw off the shackles of the government when the government becomes
> > > > > > oppressive? #1 and #2 provide you with the ability to do this and isn't
> > > > > > it amazing that our founders codified the rights of the people to do
> > > > > > this?
> >
> > > > > The government has not become oppressive or anything remotely
> > > > > resembling it. I don't think it's a bad thing that we've had orderly
> > > > > changes of government every four years for 234 years without a shot
> > > > > ever being fired.
> >
> > > > Let's start with the Whiskey Rebellion and the Civil War.
> >
> > > Neither of those prevented the reelection of the incumbent president.
> >
> > We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify. And,
> > the government is moving towards being oppressive.
>
> If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with
> all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know what
> oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or Saudi
> Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt. is.

Do you want the oppression in the US to get to the level of those
countries before you try and retain your rights? Rights should be
protected all of the time.


From: BAR on
In article <alangbaker-560194.17450817072010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
> > > > I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this Congress
> > > > keeps
> > > > going the way it is, people are really looking toward those Second
> > > > Amendment
> > > > remedies and saying my goodness what can we do to turn this country
> > > > around?
> > > > I'll tell you the first thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.
> > >
> > > So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK with
> > > that?
> >
> > Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?
>
> Not unless you are going to redefine every democratically elected
> government that does something you don't like as "opressive".
>

Governing against the will of the American people is oppressive.