From: Carbon on 18 Jul 2010 10:30 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:26:58 -0400, BAR wrote: > In article <alangbaker-560194.17450817072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... >>> >>>>> I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this >>>>> Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking >>>>> toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what >>>>> can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first >>>>> thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out. >>>> >>>> So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK >>>> with that? >>> >>> Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government? >> >> Not unless you are going to redefine every democratically elected >> government that does something you don't like as "opressive". > > Governing against the will of the American people is oppressive. Could you please share with us how a democratically elected government could be governing against the will of the American people?
From: Carbon on 18 Jul 2010 10:35 On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:25:58 -0400, BAR wrote: > In article <f506f38c-9023-4737-bb37-090763015b85 > @q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... >> On Jul 17, 7:35 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: >> >>> We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify. >>> And, the government is moving towards being oppressive. >> >> If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with >> all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know >> what oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or >> Saudi Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt. >> is. > > Do you want the oppression in the US to get to the level of those > countries before you try and retain your rights? Rights should be > protected all of the time. Right now in the US a democratically elected government is under attack right now by a bunch of ignorant Fascists. I am glad you agree that it's wrong.
From: John B. on 18 Jul 2010 10:43 On Jul 18, 9:25 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <f506f38c-9023-4737-bb37-090763015b85 > @q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > On Jul 17, 7:35 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <9d71926e-68b4-4eba-a73b- > > > 01c1268af...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says.... > > > > > On Jul 16, 12:12 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <24ea92f5-8dbc-456c-9b10- > > > > > 2589dc299...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > Why is armed insurrection bad? Isn't it the duty of those governed to > > > > > > > throw off the shackles of the government when the government becomes > > > > > > > oppressive? #1 and #2 provide you with the ability to do this and isn't > > > > > > > it amazing that our founders codified the rights of the people to do > > > > > > > this? > > > > > > > The government has not become oppressive or anything remotely > > > > > > resembling it. I don't think it's a bad thing that we've had orderly > > > > > > changes of government every four years for 234 years without a shot > > > > > > ever being fired. > > > > > > Let's start with the Whiskey Rebellion and the Civil War. > > > > > Neither of those prevented the reelection of the incumbent president. > > > > We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify. And, > > > the government is moving towards being oppressive. > > > If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with > > all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know what > > oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or Saudi > > Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt. is. > > Do you want the oppression in the US to get to the level of those > countries before you try and retain your rights? Rights should be > protected all of the time. OK, you're a paranoid spoiled brat.
From: BAR on 18 Jul 2010 11:44 In article <4c430ff3$0$4988$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:26:58 -0400, BAR wrote: > > In article <alangbaker-560194.17450817072010(a)news.shawcable.com>, > > alangbaker(a)telus.net says... > >>> > >>>>> I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this > >>>>> Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking > >>>>> toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what > >>>>> can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first > >>>>> thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out. > >>>> > >>>> So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK > >>>> with that? > >>> > >>> Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government? > >> > >> Not unless you are going to redefine every democratically elected > >> government that does something you don't like as "opressive". > > > > Governing against the will of the American people is oppressive. > > Could you please share with us how a democratically elected government > could be governing against the will of the American people? Your closed mind wouldn't understand.
From: William Clark on 18 Jul 2010 14:12
In article <MPG.26accaeed6a89ed798a122(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <f506f38c-9023-4737-bb37-090763015b85 > @q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > > > On Jul 17, 7:35�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <9d71926e-68b4-4eba-a73b- > > > 01c1268af...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jul 16, 12:12�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <24ea92f5-8dbc-456c-9b10- > > > > > 2589dc299...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com > > > > > says... > > > > > > > > > > Why is armed insurrection bad? Isn't it the duty of those > > > > > > > governed to > > > > > > > throw off the shackles of the government when the government > > > > > > > becomes > > > > > > > oppressive? #1 and #2 provide you with the ability to do this and > > > > > > > isn't > > > > > > > it amazing that our founders codified the rights of the people to > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > this? > > > > > > > > > The government has not become oppressive or anything remotely > > > > > > resembling it. I don't think it's a bad thing that we've had > > > > > > orderly > > > > > > changes of government every four years for 234 years without a shot > > > > > > ever being fired. > > > > > > > > Let's start with the Whiskey Rebellion and the Civil War. > > > > > > > Neither of those prevented the reelection of the incumbent president. > > > > > > We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify. And, > > > the government is moving towards being oppressive. > > > > If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with > > all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know what > > oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or Saudi > > Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt. is. > > Do you want the oppression in the US to get to the level of those > countries before you try and retain your rights? Rights should be > protected all of the time. And who exactly is "oppressing" you? Having a childish tantrum because your party got dumped out of power does not constitute "oppression" in a democracy. |