From: Carbon on
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:26:58 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <alangbaker-560194.17450817072010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
>>>
>>>>> I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this
>>>>> Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking
>>>>> toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what
>>>>> can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first
>>>>> thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.
>>>>
>>>> So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK
>>>> with that?
>>>
>>> Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?
>>
>> Not unless you are going to redefine every democratically elected
>> government that does something you don't like as "opressive".
>
> Governing against the will of the American people is oppressive.

Could you please share with us how a democratically elected government
could be governing against the will of the American people?
From: Carbon on
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:25:58 -0400, BAR wrote:
> In article <f506f38c-9023-4737-bb37-090763015b85
> @q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>> On Jul 17, 7:35 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify.
>>> And, the government is moving towards being oppressive.
>>
>> If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with
>> all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know
>> what oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or
>> Saudi Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt.
>> is.
>
> Do you want the oppression in the US to get to the level of those
> countries before you try and retain your rights? Rights should be
> protected all of the time.

Right now in the US a democratically elected government is under attack
right now by a bunch of ignorant Fascists. I am glad you agree that it's
wrong.
From: John B. on
On Jul 18, 9:25 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <f506f38c-9023-4737-bb37-090763015b85
> @q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 17, 7:35 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <9d71926e-68b4-4eba-a73b-
> > > 01c1268af...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says....
>
> > > > On Jul 16, 12:12 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article <24ea92f5-8dbc-456c-9b10-
> > > > > 2589dc299...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
> > > > > > > Why is armed insurrection bad? Isn't it the duty of those governed to
> > > > > > > throw off the shackles of the government when the government becomes
> > > > > > > oppressive? #1 and #2 provide you with the ability to do this and isn't
> > > > > > > it amazing that our founders codified the rights of the people to do
> > > > > > > this?
>
> > > > > > The government has not become oppressive or anything remotely
> > > > > > resembling it. I don't think it's a bad thing that we've had orderly
> > > > > > changes of government every four years for 234 years without a shot
> > > > > > ever being fired.
>
> > > > > Let's start with the Whiskey Rebellion and the Civil War.
>
> > > > Neither of those prevented the reelection of the incumbent president.
>
> > > We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify. And,
> > > the government is moving towards being oppressive.
>
> > If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with
> > all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know what
> > oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or Saudi
> > Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt. is.
>
> Do you want the oppression in the US to get to the level of those
> countries before you try and retain your rights? Rights should be
> protected all of the time.

OK, you're a paranoid spoiled brat.
From: BAR on
In article <4c430ff3$0$4988$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>
> On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 09:26:58 -0400, BAR wrote:
> > In article <alangbaker-560194.17450817072010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
> > alangbaker(a)telus.net says...
> >>>
> >>>>> I hope that's not where we're going, but, you know, if this
> >>>>> Congress keeps going the way it is, people are really looking
> >>>>> toward those Second Amendment remedies and saying my goodness what
> >>>>> can we do to turn this country around? I'll tell you the first
> >>>>> thing we need to do is take Harry Reid out.
> >>>>
> >>>> So she suggested that Harry Reid should be killed and you're OK
> >>>> with that?
> >>>
> >>> Is Harry Reid part of an oppressive government?
> >>
> >> Not unless you are going to redefine every democratically elected
> >> government that does something you don't like as "opressive".
> >
> > Governing against the will of the American people is oppressive.
>
> Could you please share with us how a democratically elected government
> could be governing against the will of the American people?

Your closed mind wouldn't understand.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.26accaeed6a89ed798a122(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <f506f38c-9023-4737-bb37-090763015b85
> @q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > On Jul 17, 7:35�am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <9d71926e-68b4-4eba-a73b-
> > > 01c1268af...(a)z10g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Jul 16, 12:12�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > In article <24ea92f5-8dbc-456c-9b10-
> > > > > 2589dc299...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com
> > > > > says...
> > >
> > > > > > > Why is armed insurrection bad? Isn't it the duty of those
> > > > > > > governed to
> > > > > > > throw off the shackles of the government when the government
> > > > > > > becomes
> > > > > > > oppressive? #1 and #2 provide you with the ability to do this and
> > > > > > > isn't
> > > > > > > it amazing that our founders codified the rights of the people to
> > > > > > > do
> > > > > > > this?
> > >
> > > > > > The government has not become oppressive or anything remotely
> > > > > > resembling it. I don't think it's a bad thing that we've had
> > > > > > orderly
> > > > > > changes of government every four years for 234 years without a shot
> > > > > > ever being fired.
> > >
> > > > > Let's start with the Whiskey Rebellion and the Civil War.
> > >
> > > > Neither of those prevented the reelection of the incumbent president.
> > >
> > > We were talking about armed insurrection. Both of which qualify. And,
> > > the government is moving towards being oppressive.
> >
> > If you think the US govt is even remotely oppressive, then I say with
> > all due respect that you are a spoiled brat who doesn't even know what
> > oppression is. Go spend some time in N. Korea or Cambodia or Saudi
> > Arabia, then come back and tell us how oppressive the US govt. is.
>
> Do you want the oppression in the US to get to the level of those
> countries before you try and retain your rights? Rights should be
> protected all of the time.

And who exactly is "oppressing" you? Having a childish tantrum because
your party got dumped out of power does not constitute "oppression" in a
democracy.