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From: BAR on 6 Jun 2010 17:42 In article <82d0ae10-57b5-48b4-ad42- 00cd30ecbbfa(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Jun 6, 3:53�pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:44:29 -0500, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > >>In any case, Bush got the blame even though, as you say, he had > > >>nothing to do with it. �Unfortunately for Obama, he will also get the > > >>blame for the failures of the Gulf oil leak. �And it looks like this > > >>is going to go on for a long time. > > > > >The difference is that with Katrina the government was accountable for > > >the cleanup. � > > > > >BK > > > > But Katrina was an act of God. �The oil spill was caused by BP and > > they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. � > > > > "$6.2 milliion > > The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan campaign research > > organization, shows BP has given $6.212 million to nearly 1,OOO > > candidates for federal office over the past 20 years. > > > > In a bit of political irony, the company, whose oil spill has made > > President Obama s life miserable over the past month, has given more > > to the president than anyone else. > > > > The Center for Responsive Politics shows Obama having received $77,051 > > from BP, with most of it, $71,000 coming during his run for the White > > House" > > > > http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/?q=node/14779 > > > > Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was > > connected in any way to these contributions? � > > > > In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major oil > > spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he proposed to > > expand off shore drilling. > > I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution > to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at > all. I think you are incredibly stupid to not understand how politics works.
From: John B. on 6 Jun 2010 18:18 On Jun 6, 5:42 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <82d0ae10-57b5-48b4-ad42- > 00cd30ecb...(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > On Jun 6, 3:53 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:44:29 -0500, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >>In any case, Bush got the blame even though, as you say, he had > > > >>nothing to do with it. Unfortunately for Obama, he will also get the > > > >>blame for the failures of the Gulf oil leak. And it looks like this > > > >>is going to go on for a long time. > > > > >The difference is that with Katrina the government was accountable for > > > >the cleanup. > > > > >BK > > > > But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and > > > they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. > > > > "$6.2 milliion > > > The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan campaign research > > > organization, shows BP has given $6.212 million to nearly 1,OOO > > > candidates for federal office over the past 20 years. > > > > In a bit of political irony, the company, whose oil spill has made > > > President Obama s life miserable over the past month, has given more > > > to the president than anyone else. > > > > The Center for Responsive Politics shows Obama having received $77,051 > > > from BP, with most of it, $71,000 coming during his run for the White > > > House" > > > >http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/?q=node/14779 > > > > Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was > > > connected in any way to these contributions? > > > > In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major oil > > > spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he proposed to > > > expand off shore drilling. > > > I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution > > to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at > > all. > > I think you are incredibly stupid to not understand how politics works. Do you, Bert? I can't tell you how deeply that hurts me.
From: BAR on 6 Jun 2010 18:20 In article <38b593ba-6efe-44c1-9a01-4d98abce0f26 @w31g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > > > Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was > > > > connected in any way to these contributions? > > > > > > In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major oil > > > > spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he proposed to > > > > expand off shore drilling. > > > > > I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution > > > to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at > > > all. > > > > I think you are incredibly stupid to not understand how politics works. > > Do you, Bert? I can't tell you how deeply that hurts me. > Yes I do. And, I know it doesn't matter to you.
From: William Clark on 6 Jun 2010 18:33 In article <h6sn061sg1dlj7u5pkpeo48v3smet0ile1(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 10:34:22 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > > >Even though Katrina happened during the Bush administration he's not > >the blame , even though the buck stops there. FEMA was just not > >ready, and then mismanaged. > > > >In neither case was the government, nor the President, the underlying > >cause of the incident. > > FIMA had responded quite well to every previous hurricane. The > problem in NO was they had to deal with totally incompetent state and > local officials. > > In any case, Bush got the blame even though, as you say, he had > nothing to do with it. Unfortunately for Obama, he will also get the > blame for the failures of the Gulf oil leak. And it looks like this > is going to go on for a long time. It's "FEMA", Jack. And your interpretation, while it parrots the party line so faithfully, is total BS.
From: William Clark on 6 Jun 2010 18:35
In article <MPG.2675e0619d1d4ca6989ffc(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <82d0ae10-57b5-48b4-ad42- > 00cd30ecbbfa(a)k39g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > > > On Jun 6, 3:53�pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:44:29 -0500, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >>In any case, Bush got the blame even though, as you say, he had > > > >>nothing to do with it. �Unfortunately for Obama, he will also get the > > > >>blame for the failures of the Gulf oil leak. �And it looks like this > > > >>is going to go on for a long time. > > > > > > >The difference is that with Katrina the government was accountable for > > > >the cleanup. � > > > > > > >BK > > > > > > But Katrina was an act of God. �The oil spill was caused by BP and > > > they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. � > > > > > > "$6.2 milliion > > > The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan campaign research > > > organization, shows BP has given $6.212 million to nearly 1,OOO > > > candidates for federal office over the past 20 years. > > > > > > In a bit of political irony, the company, whose oil spill has made > > > President Obama s life miserable over the past month, has given more > > > to the president than anyone else. > > > > > > The Center for Responsive Politics shows Obama having received $77,051 > > > from BP, with most of it, $71,000 coming during his run for the White > > > House" > > > > > > http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/?q=node/14779 > > > > > > Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was > > > connected in any way to these contributions? � > > > > > > In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major oil > > > spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he proposed to > > > expand off shore drilling. > > > > I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution > > to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at > > all. > > I think you are incredibly stupid to not understand how politics works. I think you and Jack are incredibly duplicitious not to acknowledge that big oil splashes money around to both parties like a Gulf oil leak, just to keep in with all sides. |