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From: Carbon on 7 Jun 2010 21:39 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:35 +0000, Moderate wrote: > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Jun 6, 3:53 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> >>> But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and >>> they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. >>> >>> "$6.2 milliion The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan >>> campaign research organization, shows BP has given $6.212 million to >>> nearly 1,OOO candidates for federal office over the past 20 years. >>> >>> In a bit of political irony, the company, whose oil spill has made >>> President Obama s life miserable over the past month, has given more >>> to the president than anyone else. >>> >>> The Center for Responsive Politics shows Obama having received >>> $77,051 from BP, with most of it, $71,000 coming during his run for >>> the White House" >>> >>> http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/?q=node/14779 >>> >>> Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was >>> connected in any way to these contributions? >>> >>> In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major >>> oil spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he >>> proposed to expand off shore drilling. >> >> I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution >> to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at >> all. > > You are incredibly naive to think it would not. Speaking of naive, do you somehow not know that the oil companies make large campaign contributions to both sides of the aisle?
From: Carbon on 7 Jun 2010 21:42 On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 09:18:07 -0500, bknight wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 07:53:46 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> In article <ekmp06tn5jg0s68hcl6fu47rvvvf68q0su(a)4ax.com>, >> howard(a)brazee.net says... >>> On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 21:07:13 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >>> >>>> Ridiculous. The government has no reason, wherewithal, or the >>>> experience in deep sea recovery or drilling. The very idea of >>>> idiot conservatives wanting the government to get involved with >>>> private business is hypocritical, but expected. >>> >>> Did you notice the words "Transformers" and "Cameron"? Your >>> response didn't appear to recognize the joke. >> >> That is Bobby's problem. He reads into things what he wants not what >> is there. Bobby has lost the ability to read and comprehend and >> connect the dots on a broader scale. > > BP hasn't allowed anyone's suggestions to penetrate their > stubbornness. Cameron has more experience at greater depths than this > drilling, and they ignored him The fact is that I don't find that > funny. > > But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might. Oh really? Did he do same online scam tests as immoderate?
From: John B. on 7 Jun 2010 22:00 On Jun 7, 9:09 pm, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:06:25 -0400, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> > wrote: > > > > > > >On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:24:04 -0500, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > >>>The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. When you're > >>>in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. It's not fair, but that's > >>>the way it is. > > >>Not with any intelligent people. > > >>BK > > >As I tell my kids, a lot of things in life will make sense if you > >remember that half of the people in the world are below average > >intelligence. > > >What the oil spill will do is make it apparent how poorly the > >government is at getting anything done. It's not Obama's fault, but > >he's in charge so now he gets the blame. It comes with the job. > > I just can't imagine anyone thinking that the gov't could have done > anything about this that they didn't do. > > BK I have asked and asked and asked again what the government should have done that it hasn't done. All I've gotten so far is that they took a long time to deliver some sand bags.
From: William Clark on 7 Jun 2010 22:03 In article <4c0d9f50$0$15324$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:35 +0000, Moderate wrote: > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 3:53 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and > >>> they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. > >>> > >>> "$6.2 milliion The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan > >>> campaign research organization, shows BP has given $6.212 million to > >>> nearly 1,OOO candidates for federal office over the past 20 years. > >>> > >>> In a bit of political irony, the company, whose oil spill has made > >>> President Obama s life miserable over the past month, has given more > >>> to the president than anyone else. > >>> > >>> The Center for Responsive Politics shows Obama having received > >>> $77,051 from BP, with most of it, $71,000 coming during his run for > >>> the White House" > >>> > >>> http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/?q=node/14779 > >>> > >>> Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was > >>> connected in any way to these contributions? > >>> > >>> In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major > >>> oil spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he > >>> proposed to expand off shore drilling. > >> > >> I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution > >> to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at > >> all. > > > > You are incredibly naive to think it would not. > > Speaking of naive, do you somehow not know that the oil companies make > large campaign contributions to both sides of the aisle? He does, but he is choosing to ignore the fact that 60% of BP's political contributions went not to the Democrats, but to the party he holds so near and dear. How embarrassing for him.
From: William Clark on 7 Jun 2010 22:04
In article <i66r069j3nlvf08t61roel27rvd9iiic76(a)4ax.com>, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. =A0When you're > >> in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. =A0It's not fair, but that's > >> the way it is. > > > >And those who blame Obama -- what will they say he did or didn't do > >that was wrong? > > Failure of federal regulatory agencies to properly supervise BP's > operations. This is especially true considering BP's previous safety > violations. The federal regulators were asleep at the switch. > > Failure to comprehend the seriousness of the situation leading to slow > and inadequate response with cleanup effort. > > > Things like this from ABC News: > > "Jindal is still waiting for the federal government to provide > millions of feet in boom and to approve an emergency permit for a > state plan to dredge and build new barrier islands to keep the oil > from reaching the marshes and wetlands. > > Jindal is so desperate for the islands, he's said he'll build them > even if it sends him to jail. > > "We've been frustrated with the disjointed effort to date that has too > often meant too little, too late for the oil hitting our coast," > Jindal said." > > > The bottom line is that people can see every night on TV that what the > government is doing isn't working. This will go on and on for > months. Actually they see every night what BP is doing that is not working. That is what they are really ticked off about, however much you wingnuts want to shift it to Obama. |