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From: BAR on 8 Jun 2010 07:21 In article <nv5r06pgh4oor23r404b74b317vten9qjs(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 21:06:25 -0400, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> > wrote: > > >On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 18:24:04 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > >>>The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. When you're > >>>in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. It's not fair, but that's > >>>the way it is. > >> > >>Not with any intelligent people. > >> > >>BK > > > >As I tell my kids, a lot of things in life will make sense if you > >remember that half of the people in the world are below average > >intelligence. > > > >What the oil spill will do is make it apparent how poorly the > >government is at getting anything done. It's not Obama's fault, but > >he's in charge so now he gets the blame. It comes with the job. > > I just can't imagine anyone thinking that the gov't could have done > anything about this that they didn't do. You truly are a hypocrite.
From: BAR on 8 Jun 2010 07:22 In article <7ca70d8d-b677-4c5a-b490- 3567844bba4c(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Jun 7, 9:28�pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. =A0When you're > > >> in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. =A0It's not fair, but that's > > >> the way it is. > > > > >And those who blame Obama -- what will they say he did or didn't do > > >that was wrong? > > > > Failure of federal regulatory agencies to properly supervise BP's > > operations. �This is especially true considering BP's previous safety > > violations. �The federal regulators were asleep at the switch. > > > > Failure to comprehend the seriousness of the situation leading to slow > > and inadequate response with cleanup effort. � > > > > Things like this from ABC News: > > > > "Jindal is still waiting for the federal government to provide > > millions of feet in boom and to approve an emergency permit for a > > state plan to dredge and build new barrier islands to keep the oil > > from reaching the marshes and wetlands. > > > > Jindal is so desperate for the islands, he's said he'll build them > > even if it sends him to jail. > > > > "We've been frustrated with the disjointed effort to date that has too > > often meant too little, too late for the oil hitting our coast," > > Jindal said." > > > > The bottom line is that people can see every night on TV that what the > > government is doing isn't working. � This will go on and on for > > months. > > All fed. agcys. that have authority for environmental regulation are > close to impotent because Republicans in Congress and the White House > have been slashing their budgets and hog-tying them for decades. When are you going to stop blaming Reagan and Bush?
From: BAR on 8 Jun 2010 07:23 In article <4c0d9f50$0$15324$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:35 +0000, Moderate wrote: > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Jun 6, 3:53 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> > >>> But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and > >>> they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. > >>> > >>> "$6.2 milliion The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan > >>> campaign research organization, shows BP has given $6.212 million to > >>> nearly 1,OOO candidates for federal office over the past 20 years. > >>> > >>> In a bit of political irony, the company, whose oil spill has made > >>> President Obama s life miserable over the past month, has given more > >>> to the president than anyone else. > >>> > >>> The Center for Responsive Politics shows Obama having received > >>> $77,051 from BP, with most of it, $71,000 coming during his run for > >>> the White House" > >>> > >>> http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/?q=node/14779 > >>> > >>> Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was > >>> connected in any way to these contributions? > >>> > >>> In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major > >>> oil spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he > >>> proposed to expand off shore drilling. > >> > >> I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution > >> to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at > >> all. > > > > You are incredibly naive to think it would not. > > Speaking of naive, do you somehow not know that the oil companies make > large campaign contributions to both sides of the aisle? Who received the bigger pile of cash recently?
From: William Clark on 8 Jun 2010 07:51 In article <MPG.2677f22c57492acc98a01e(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <4c0d9f50$0$15324$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > On Mon, 07 Jun 2010 10:55:35 +0000, Moderate wrote: > > > "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Jun 6, 3:53 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >> > > >>> But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and > > >>> they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor. > > >>> > > >>> "$6.2 milliion The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan > > >>> campaign research organization, shows BP has given $6.212 million to > > >>> nearly 1,OOO candidates for federal office over the past 20 years. > > >>> > > >>> In a bit of political irony, the company, whose oil spill has made > > >>> President Obama s life miserable over the past month, has given more > > >>> to the president than anyone else. > > >>> > > >>> The Center for Responsive Politics shows Obama having received > > >>> $77,051 from BP, with most of it, $71,000 coming during his run for > > >>> the White House" > > >>> > > >>> http://www.capitolnewsconnection.org/?q=node/14779 > > >>> > > >>> Do you think that Obama's plan to expand off shore driulling was > > >>> connected in any way to these contributions? > > >>> > > >>> In any case, it looks real bad for Obama right now to have a major > > >>> oil spill disaster at an offshore drilling site right after he > > >>> proposed to expand off shore drilling. > > >> > > >> I think you're incredibly naive to think that a $71,000 contribution > > >> to a campaign that cost hundreds of millions would have any effect at > > >> all. > > > > > > You are incredibly naive to think it would not. > > > > Speaking of naive, do you somehow not know that the oil companies make > > large campaign contributions to both sides of the aisle? > > Who received the bigger pile of cash recently? The GoP - it got 60% of BP's cash.
From: William Clark on 8 Jun 2010 07:54
In article <MPG.2677f119453b1c2398a01b(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <wclark2-DF840B.20103207062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... > > > > In article <MPG.26774af790c1305c98a016(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>, > > > bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>, > > > > >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet of > > > > >water? > > > > > > > > > >Cameron is a joke. > > > > > > > > > >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might. > > > > > > > > I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn. > > > > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-oil- > > > > spil > > > > l > > > > > > There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures and > > > capping an oil leak. > > > > > > Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron > > > stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't > > > need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures. > > > > So let's get this straight - you scream at Obama for not sending in the > > Feds to fix this leak, and then you deride Cameron as knowing nothing > > about fixing oil leaks at 5,000 feet? You are simply a loon. How much > > more expertise do you think resides in the Feds to do this very same > > thing? Zero - it's BP's bailiwick. > > You are not a manager are you? Not really, I only manage about $2M p.a. in federal and industrial contracts. I am sure you have far more - especially with your "150" IQ. |