From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.2677ef9cbdafbfcf98a019(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <lg0r06dnpo3sqdhpfjv19ccfsrnv61kj07(a)4ax.com>,
> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> >
> > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:29:44 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > >In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>,
> > >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>,
> > >> >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >> >
> > >> >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet of
> > >> >water?
> > >> >
> > >> >Cameron is a joke.
> > >> >
> > >> >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might.
> > >>
> > >> I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-oil-s
> > >> pill
> > >
> > >There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures and
> > >capping an oil leak.
> > >
> > >Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron
> > >stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't
> > >need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures.
> >
> > I was right. Either you didn't read the article, or you didn't learn
> > anything.
>
> I talked to a public offical the other day too big deal.
>
> Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the
> surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures.

As has the federal government that you scream should be doing so.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.2677f0d9f87cdaad98a01a(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <wclark2-99A8BD.20004007062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.2677399171a7cfa598a00d(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <clark-34AD14.07500807062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > > >
> > > > In article <64bo069mdphbgnd29qml1s0m8jshnojoaq(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > On Sun, 06 Jun 2010 15:26:50 -0500, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >>But Katrina was an act of God. The oil spill was caused by BP and
> > > > > >>they're Obama's biggest campaign contributor.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >How, in any way, does that make Obama or the government accountable
> > > > > >for cleaning up BP's mess?
> > > > >
> > > > > The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. When you're
> > > > > in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. It's not fair, but that's
> > > > > the way it is.
> > > >
> > > > "In charge" of what? There is only one entity here "in charge" of oil
> > > > drilling (and spreading lies and misinformation), and it is not Obama.
> > >
> > > Department of Energy = Obama Appointee.
> > >
> > > Department of the Interior = Obama Appointee.
> > >
> > > Department of Homeland Security = Obama Appointee.
> > >
> > > Obama can run from but, he can't hide from this one.
> >
> > And which of these Departments carries the equipment and expertise to
> > cap a defective oil well?
> >
> > None? I thought not. Sorry, Bertie, but your beloved free enterprise
> > system is stuck with this one, however much you wish it weren't so.
>
> So you are admitting that the government is incompetent in this area?

Listen, I know that you never admit to not knowing everything about
everything, but there is a time when you need people experienced and
qualified to address a problem. This is one case - the government has
zero expertise in oil drilling, so it makes no sense to anyone other
than wingnuts trying to stir up trouble that they should step in. This
is BP's baby - they caused it by cutting corners, they are the only
people with the equipment and knowledge, and it is their responsibility
to clean the bloody thing up. Period.
>
> But, the governemnt had a plan that Obama failed to implement.
> http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/beltway-
> confidential/Former-NOAA-oil-spill-cleanup-boss-says-Obama-waited-too-
> long-in-Gulf-disaster--92631189.html
From: BAR on
In article <clark-B4E1B5.07550508062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
>
> In article <MPG.2677ef9cbdafbfcf98a019(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <lg0r06dnpo3sqdhpfjv19ccfsrnv61kj07(a)4ax.com>,
> > bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > >
> > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:29:44 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>,
> > > >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>,
> > > >> >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet of
> > > >> >water?
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Cameron is a joke.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might.
> > > >>
> > > >> I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn.
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-oil-s
> > > >> pill
> > > >
> > > >There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures and
> > > >capping an oil leak.
> > > >
> > > >Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron
> > > >stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't
> > > >need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures.
> > >
> > > I was right. Either you didn't read the article, or you didn't learn
> > > anything.
> >
> > I talked to a public offical the other day too big deal.
> >
> > Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the
> > surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures.
>
> As has the federal government that you scream should be doing so.

Screaming? Throwing in your face is more like it.


From: bknight on
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:12:14 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:


>
>Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the
>surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures.

He didn't offer to stop the leaks. He offered the free use of his
private fleet of submarines, and the expertise of his crews, who have
operated at far lower levels than this leak.

BP has zero experience at stopping this leak so far. They need all
the help that's offered.

BK

From: BAR on
In article <clark-543B85.07542508062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
>
> In article <MPG.2677f119453b1c2398a01b(a)news.giganews.com>,
> BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> > In article <wclark2-DF840B.20103207062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > >
> > > In article <MPG.26774af790c1305c98a016(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > > >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet of
> > > > > >water?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Cameron is a joke.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-oil-
> > > > > spil
> > > > > l
> > > >
> > > > There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures and
> > > > capping an oil leak.
> > > >
> > > > Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron
> > > > stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't
> > > > need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures.
> > >
> > > So let's get this straight - you scream at Obama for not sending in the
> > > Feds to fix this leak, and then you deride Cameron as knowing nothing
> > > about fixing oil leaks at 5,000 feet? You are simply a loon. How much
> > > more expertise do you think resides in the Feds to do this very same
> > > thing? Zero - it's BP's bailiwick.
> >
> > You are not a manager are you?
>
> Not really, I only manage about $2M p.a. in federal and industrial
> contracts. I am sure you have far more - especially with your "150" IQ.

The programs I am involved in are a tad bit bigger and are key to to
keeping multi-billion dollar revenue streams up and running 24x7. The
sun never sets on my programs.


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