From: BAR on
In article <fmcs06t6n22npc5bdi82fpspv7bif5kmsi(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:12:14 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> >Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the
> >surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures.
>
> He didn't offer to stop the leaks. He offered the free use of his
> private fleet of submarines, and the expertise of his crews, who have
> operated at far lower levels than this leak.
>
> BP has zero experience at stopping this leak so far. They need all
> the help that's offered.

Cameron was looking for footage for a documentry. His cameras and
operators would have gotten in the way and they would have been serving
two masters.

From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.2677fdbaaa1d983198a026(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <clark-B4E1B5.07550508062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.2677ef9cbdafbfcf98a019(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <lg0r06dnpo3sqdhpfjv19ccfsrnv61kj07(a)4ax.com>,
> > > bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:29:44 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > >> >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet
> > > > >> >of
> > > > >> >water?
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Cameron is a joke.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-o
> > > > >> il-s
> > > > >> pill
> > > > >
> > > > >There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures
> > > > >and
> > > > >capping an oil leak.
> > > > >
> > > > >Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron
> > > > >stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't
> > > > >need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures.
> > > >
> > > > I was right. Either you didn't read the article, or you didn't learn
> > > > anything.
> > >
> > > I talked to a public offical the other day too big deal.
> > >
> > > Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the
> > > surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures.
> >
> > As has the federal government that you scream should be doing so.
>
> Screaming? Throwing in your face is more like it.

"Throwing in your face"? What the hell is that? Tut, tut.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.267801c3a0a9a4aa98a028(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <clark-543B85.07542508062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.2677f119453b1c2398a01b(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <wclark2-DF840B.20103207062010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says...
> > > >
> > > > In article <MPG.26774af790c1305c98a016(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > In article <c6uq06ltdu57hm7v2imagsacpdu8oeu9so(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > > bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 18:18:21 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >In article <fmvp06paftfupdknq25qqsg3hquokirom2(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > > > >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >How many broken oil drilling pipes has Cameron fixed in 5,000 feet
> > > > > > >of
> > > > > > >water?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Cameron is a joke.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> But then, your IQ of 150+ (what a joke) might.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'd say read and learn, but just read. You never learn.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2010/jun/02/james-cameron-underwater-
> > > > > > oil-
> > > > > > spil
> > > > > > l
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a big difference between driving around and taking pictures
> > > > > and
> > > > > capping an oil leak.
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, how many oil leaks at 5,000 feet below the surface has Cameron
> > > > > stopped? How many sub-surface oil leaks has Cameron stopped. We don't
> > > > > need anyone taking more pictures of blue sea creatures.
> > > >
> > > > So let's get this straight - you scream at Obama for not sending in the
> > > > Feds to fix this leak, and then you deride Cameron as knowing nothing
> > > > about fixing oil leaks at 5,000 feet? You are simply a loon. How much
> > > > more expertise do you think resides in the Feds to do this very same
> > > > thing? Zero - it's BP's bailiwick.
> > >
> > > You are not a manager are you?
> >
> > Not really, I only manage about $2M p.a. in federal and industrial
> > contracts. I am sure you have far more - especially with your "150" IQ.
>
> The programs I am involved in are a tad bit bigger and are key to to
> keeping multi-billion dollar revenue streams up and running 24x7. The
> sun never sets on my programs.

"Involved in", as opposed to "manage", I think. I am "involved in" a
multi-billion dollar enterprise here, but I individually and directly
"manage" the $2M+ p.a. that I referred to above. You?
From: bknight on
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:35:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>In article <fmcs06t6n22npc5bdi82fpspv7bif5kmsi(a)4ax.com>,
>bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>>
>> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:12:14 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the
>> >surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures.
>>
>> He didn't offer to stop the leaks. He offered the free use of his
>> private fleet of submarines, and the expertise of his crews, who have
>> operated at far lower levels than this leak.
>>
>> BP has zero experience at stopping this leak so far. They need all
>> the help that's offered.
>
>Cameron was looking for footage for a documentry. His cameras and
>operators would have gotten in the way and they would have been serving
>two masters.

As if you had any idea of what Cameron's objectives were. Hell,
you've disputed yourself so may times in this discussion you don't
even know what your objectives are.

The sun never sets on the inflated self-absorption of Bert the
Shallow.
BK
From: John B. on
On Jun 8, 7:22 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <7ca70d8d-b677-4c5a-b490-
> 3567844bb...(a)j4g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 7, 9:28 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> > > On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 17:03:02 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
>
> > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> The blame for this mess will be shared by BP and Obama. =A0When you're
> > > >> in charge, there's no way to avoid blame. =A0It's not fair, but that's
> > > >> the way it is.
>
> > > >And those who blame Obama -- what will they say he did or didn't do
> > > >that was wrong?
>
> > > Failure of federal regulatory agencies to properly supervise BP's
> > > operations. This is especially true considering BP's previous safety
> > > violations. The federal regulators were asleep at the switch.
>
> > > Failure to comprehend the seriousness of the situation leading to slow
> > > and inadequate response with cleanup effort.
>
> > > Things like this from ABC News:
>
> > > "Jindal is still waiting for the federal government to provide
> > > millions of feet in boom and to approve an emergency permit for a
> > > state plan to dredge and build new barrier islands to keep the oil
> > > from reaching the marshes and wetlands.
>
> > > Jindal is so desperate for the islands, he's said he'll build them
> > > even if it sends him to jail.
>
> > > "We've been frustrated with the disjointed effort to date that has too
> > > often meant too little, too late for the oil hitting our coast,"
> > > Jindal said."
>
> > > The bottom line is that people can see every night on TV that what the
> > > government is doing isn't working. This will go on and on for
> > > months.
>
> > All fed. agcys. that have authority for environmental regulation are
> > close to impotent because Republicans in Congress and the White House
> > have been slashing their budgets and hog-tying them for decades.
>
> When are you going to stop blaming Reagan and Bush?

Probably never. Facts are facts. Sorry if they're inconvenient to you.
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