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From: John B. on 8 Jun 2010 16:27 On Jun 8, 2:55 pm, Don Kirkman <dons...(a)charter.net> wrote: > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:22:21 -0400, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > >When are you going to stop blaming Reagan and Bush? > > When are your side going to acknowledge that Reagan, as California > governor, raised taxes over 150%? That's "conservative"? Reagan, > like many politicians, was neither conservative nor liberal, but > pragmatic, trying to get things done that would benefit the public at > large? > -- > Don Kirkman > dons...(a)charter.net Apparently, any damage a Republican president does during his tenure is magically erased the day his successor is sworn in. Democrats, on the other hand, are blamed in perpetuity (see: FDR and LBJ).
From: Moderate on 8 Jun 2010 16:34 "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:56ad3d9c-bbe2-4147-a3e8-4c8ff3f5af0c(a)a30g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... On Jun 8, 2:12 pm, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:fcbe16fb-fef6-4323-9e00-3d1ae75dce77(a)c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > On Jun 8, 12:44 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 09:00:36 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >On Jun 8, 10:30=A0am, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 19:00:51 -0700 (PDT), "John B." > > > >> <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> >I have asked and asked and asked again what the government should > > >> >have > > >> >done that it hasn't done. All I've gotten so far is that they took a > > >> >long time to deliver some sand bags. > > > >> They should have stopped the oil from reaching the beaches and > > >> wetland > > >> areas so no birds or sea life would have died. > > > >How? > > > By responding faster and better than they did. Every soiled beach and > > wet land is another Obama failure. And there are going to be a lot of > > them. > > Responding how? With what? What makes you think the EPA should be > equipped to respond to a catastrophe of this magnitude? I know you > take a particular glee in blaming this on Obama, but you seem unable > to provide empirical support for it. > ****************************************************** > > The empirical evidence is in the marshes and on the beaches. And your view is that the EPA should have been able to keep millions of barrels of oil from reaching shore? You've got to be kidding. ******************************************************** My view is that the President sat on his hands for a month, before approving the sand berms last week. Governor Jindal's requests were ignored as Obama did nothing.
From: Howard Brazee on 8 Jun 2010 18:02 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:34:51 -0700, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >Ok....fine. All this he admits in his book. Nonetheless, he proved himself >in the Hanoi Hilton and his subsequent career. I thought this was a discussion of proven leadership. He didn't have any opportunity to lead in Hanoi. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 8 Jun 2010 18:03 On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 11:48:33 -0700 (PDT), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >And your view is that the EPA should have been able to keep millions >of barrels of oil from reaching shore? You've got to be kidding. Using hot air. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: BAR on 8 Jun 2010 18:08
In article <etes06hf4ej4ckctudsl70djk0vhdr481u(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:35:02 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >In article <fmcs06t6n22npc5bdi82fpspv7bif5kmsi(a)4ax.com>, > >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >> > >> On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 07:12:14 -0400, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > > >> >Cameron has zero experience in stopping oil leaks above or below the > >> >surface of the water. All he can do is take pictures. > >> > >> He didn't offer to stop the leaks. He offered the free use of his > >> private fleet of submarines, and the expertise of his crews, who have > >> operated at far lower levels than this leak. > >> > >> BP has zero experience at stopping this leak so far. They need all > >> the help that's offered. > > > >Cameron was looking for footage for a documentry. His cameras and > >operators would have gotten in the way and they would have been serving > >two masters. > > As if you had any idea of what Cameron's objectives were. Hell, > you've disputed yourself so may times in this discussion you don't > even know what your objectives are. > > The sun never sets on the inflated self-absorption of Bert the > Shallow. Right. |