From: Carbon on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 18:51:00 -0700, John B. wrote:
> On Jun 14, 8:29 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 19:04:38 -0500, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> They don't give the questions to the resident.  They give the
>>>> questions to the media and obama's staff.  Obama's handlers prepare
>>>> the answers.
>>>
>>> Wrong.  They have to be smarter than that, knowing that they'd be
>>> whipped to pieces.
>>>
>>> Who  would give the other side a chance to know questions in
>>> advance?
>>
>> Sometimes people don't have any choice - when the other guys make the
>> rules.
>
> Yet another incisive comment from Howard! You're fuckin' brilliant!
>
> If the White House had demanded questions in advance, the Republicans
> would have said "screw you" and gone to the press to embarrass the
> White House.

The Right cannot accept that Obama went on live TV and handed the GOP
their own asses. I particularly enjoyed when Fox rushed an announcer on
the air to say they were breaking away in the middle of an important,
live scheduled debate. If the GOP had managed to score any points at all
Fox would have stayed and spun the story, but the victory was so
lopsided that they just gave up.

I am confident that the Republicans will never invite Obama to another
unscripted televised debate ever again.
From: Moderate on

"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:31:23 +0000, Moderate wrote:
>> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Jun 14, 2:08 pm, Moderate <nos...(a)nomail.comu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The White House should be in charge, not the coast guard. You might
>>>> want to read up on why foreign vessels aren't involved in the clean
>>>> up.
>>>
>>> The White House IS in charge. Who do you think the Coast Guard and
>>> DHS report to? Foreign vessels ARE involved, so I think it's you who
>>> needs to read up.
>>
>> Not acording to the statements I have heard the Administration make.
>> They were waiting on the coast guard to waive the Jones Act
>
> Which statements were those?

White House Environmental Advisor, Carol Browner, said last Friday that the
White House has not received a request from the Coast Guard to waive the
Jones Act.

Does anyone think that the Coast Guard should be making decisions on changes
to law?


From: John B. on
On Jun 15, 8:54 am, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote:
> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>
> news:4c16aa54$0$15824$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:31:23 +0000, Moderate wrote:
> >> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> On Jun 14, 2:08 pm, Moderate <nos...(a)nomail.comu> wrote:
>
> >>>> The White House should be in charge, not the coast guard. You might
> >>>> want to read up on why foreign vessels aren't involved in the clean
> >>>> up.
>
> >>> The White House IS in charge. Who do you think the Coast Guard and
> >>> DHS report to? Foreign vessels ARE involved, so I think it's you who
> >>> needs to read up.
>
> >> Not acording to the statements I have heard the Administration make.
> >> They were waiting on the coast guard to waive the Jones Act
>
> > Which statements were those?
>
> White House Environmental Advisor, Carol Browner, said last Friday that the
> White House has not received a request from the Coast Guard to waive the
> Jones Act.
>
> Does anyone think that the Coast Guard should be making decisions on changes
> to law?

Have you read the Jones Act? There is nothing in it that prevents
foreign-flagged vessels from assisting in the Gulf clean-up. It says
cargo going from one U.S. port to another must be carried on US-
flagged ships. You need to stop watching Fox News.
From: bknight on
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:28:13 -0700 (PDT), "John B."
<johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 15, 12:10�am, Horv...(a)net.net wrote:

>> That's the way politics and debates are done. �Both sides know what
>> questions are being asked. �High School debaters know what the debate
>> is before they go into a meet.
>
>That is NOT the way politics are done in Washington. Not even close.
>
No, but its the way things are done in high school, where Horvath is.

BK
From: MNMikeW on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 14, 5:53 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:26:54 -0500, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote:
> >Oh bullshit. Your cite should be read by all. It actually states
> >that there was one offer that was refused by a Dutch company because
> >they were to take oil off the top and then put it back into the ocean.
>
> "UPDATE: The U.S. Government has reconsidered a Dutch offer to supply
> 4 oil skimmers. These are large arms that are attached to oil tankers
> that pump oil and water from the surface of the ocean into the tanker.
> Water pumped into the tanker will settle to the bottom of the tanker
> and is then pumped back into the ocean to make room for more oil. Each
> system will collect 5,000 tons of oil each day.
>
> One ton of oil is about 7.3 barrels. 5,000 tons per day is 36,500
> barrels per day. 4 skimmers have a capacity of 146,000 barrels per
> day. Had the US bureaucracy accepted the Dutch offer on Day 3 when it
> came, it is clear that a lot more oil would have been surface
> skimmed."
>
> Sounds like an Obama screw up to me.

If the earth were hit by a meteor, you'd call it an Obama screw-up,
such is the depth of your hatred.

=======================
And the left would blame Bush for the meteor. Talk about depth of hatred.


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