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From: Carbon on 15 Feb 2010 19:37 On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:31:40 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <4b79dfb3$0$4851$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:23:24 -0500, BAR wrote: >>> In article <4b7893f6$0$5103$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... >>> >>>> You haven't commented on Obama's performance in the recent live >>>> televised debate. Why is that? Could it be that you're so desperate >>>> to believe Obama is helpless without a teleprompter that you block >>>> out all evidence to the contrary? Perhaps your obvious bias is >>>> influencing your predictions about Obama's favorability ratings. >>> >>> Ok, I'll play. It was not a debate. It was a ask a quesiton and >>> receive an answer session. >> >> Correct. It was actually tougher than a debate. They were lined up >> with carefully prepared question after carefully prepared question, >> and they still got nowhere. I am quite certain that the GOP will >> never invite Obama to a live, unscripted television debate of this >> type again. > > Here we go again. What is your definition of a debate? Another definition request. You're like one of those kids at the national spelling bee who can't spell the word. > What Obama did was not debating. Obama was asked a question, Obama's > response was whatever he wanted to talk about. The questioner did not > get the oppourtunity to ask a follow-up question. Hell, even a press > conference has more in commone with a debate than Obama not directly > responding to the questions asked by the Republicans. On the other hand he didn't get to ask them questions, so the ball was always in his court. The went after him with carefully prepared questions for over an hour and got nowhere. Not a teleprompter in sight, which ought to put an end to that particular fantasy.
From: MNMikeW on 15 Feb 2010 20:27 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b79e03e$0$4847$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:30:40 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4b75eb36$0$5121$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:36:08 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:4b749767$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:21:30 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4b748e2c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:42 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>>>>>>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:eni8n5d2ni49tgp0j8pd0dc4p0jroki97j(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:58:12 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In article <sof8n5drfaqjkerbbv1ubt2f5ts6ta5i8l(a)4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:44 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4kre(a)4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama has a long way to go before he can claim to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>> weaned off of the TelePrompter. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the repub >>>>>>>>>>>>> congressmen, all off the cuff? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Enough so that the Senators don't want to be embarrassed too. >>>>>>>>>>> They won't subject themselves to such a drubbing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bert! This has been widely publicized. He offered to meet >>>>>>>>> with them and they said no, not as a large group, just with a >>>>>>>>> few of the leaders. They obviously don't want a repeat of the >>>>>>>>> representatives' poor showing. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And the only people saying it was a "drubbing" are left wing >>>>>>>> blogs. The meeting they want to have on the 25th is just as >>>>>>>> bogus. Obama has stated he has no plans on starting over on >>>>>>>> healthcare. So whatever proposals are presented by the Repubs, >>>>>>>> they will be rejected. The people want a "do-over" on this and >>>>>>>> so do most Repubs. Obama will not allow that so basically it >>>>>>>> comes down to nothing more than more Obama Kabuki theater. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jesus. You guys say you've watched it. Are you all blind, or >>>>>>> what? >>>>>> >>>>>> We dont have blinders on like you. >>>>> >>>>> No, Mike. According to the ceaseless Fox News narrative, Obama is >>>>> helpless without a teleprompter. He debated the GOP for over an >>>>> hour, all of them lined up with prepared questions. Not only did he >>>>> not fall apart, he gave no ground whatsoever. In fact he did very >>>>> well. It's that simple. The entire narrative is ridiculous and >>>>> stupid. >>>> >>>> I said he did very well. He by no means "drubbed" anyone. >>> >>> I'm glad you conceded that much. Most of your fellow travelers are in >>> denial. As for how well he did, I'm 100% certain that the GOP will >>> never, ever invite Obama to another unscripted live television >>> debate. Read into that what you will. >> >> There is nothing Obama does that is unscripted. > > Really. So at the recent GOP debate he, what, somehow got hold of their > in advance? Mike, how likely do you think that would have been? Very,
From: MNMikeW on 15 Feb 2010 20:28 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b79e07b$0$4847$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:40:01 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:wclark2-56C41F.21534213022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >>> In article <MPG.25e0f00f67ae0047989bb6(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR >>> <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>> In article <wclark2-9805B4.14134813022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >>>> state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >>>> > In article <MPG.25e0b2f129e9b2f4989bb5(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR >>>> > <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>> > > In article <wclark2-3D25E9.12292413022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- >>>> > > state.edu>, wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com says... >>>> > > > In article <de2e5548-0783-4608-a88a- >>>> > > > d906c877ba54(a)36g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr >>>> > > > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >>>> > > > > On Feb 13, 11:05 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> >>>> > > > > wrote: >>>> > > > > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:18:11 -0600, Moderate wrote: >>>> > > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in >>>> > > > > > > message >>>> > > > > > >news:4b7497cf$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> > > > > > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:19:44 -0800, dene wrote: >>>> > > > > > >>> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>>> > > > > > >>>news:heu8n5t5m6bopoc55sburstujj9897ii1t(a)4ax.com... >>>> > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:31:23 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr >>>> > > > > > >>>> <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> You're kidding. Biden wasted Palin in debate, and >>>> > > > > > >>>> he's a lightweight. She's a joke that is riding a >>>> > > > > > >>>> wave of simple minds. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>> In your dreams. Palin did just fine with Blabben. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >> She was drilled night and day going into the debate and >>>> > > > > > >> managed to repeat a bunch of memorized sound bites, >>>> > > > > > >> mostly without embarrassing herself. It's not like she >>>> > > > > > >> did well. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > Well I guess that qualifies her to be President. Obama >>>> > > > > > > is nothing more than a talking head. He is the Commander >>>> > > > > > > in Chief, yet he doesn't know what a Corpsman is. >>>> > > > > > >>>> > > > > > Watch the recent live unscripted debate between Obama and >>>> > > > > > the GOP. >>>> > > > > >>>> > > > > Debate? A debate has a form, that was one person asking a >>>> > > > > question, another replying and then moving on to some other >>>> > > > > question. Hardly a debate. In that form there is no >>>> > > > > viewpoint expressed other than that of the person answering >>>> > > > > the questions. A joke maybe, but no debate. >>>> > > > >>>> > > > Then how come SarahQuitter couldn't manage even a scripted Q&A >>>> > > > without scrawling notes on her palm like some 3rd grader? >>>> > > >>>> > > Why not ask Barbara Boxer? >>>> > >>>> > Because I am asking you. >>>> >>>> Again, missing the point Billy. If writing on your hand is good >>>> enough for Barbara Boxer it should be good enough for everyone? >>> >>> So you do agree about SarahQuitter, then? Good. >> >> Clark agrees that Barbara Boxer is a 3rd grader. > > You know the picture of her with writing on her hand is from like 1990, > correct? Of course that makes it all better.
From: MNMikeW on 15 Feb 2010 20:30 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b79e473$0$4859$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:34:43 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4b75ed2d$0$5077$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:34:03 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>> news:4b7494aa$0$31017$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:14:21 -0800, dene wrote: >>>>>> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:7tiptpFq3qU1(a)mid.individual.net... >>>>>>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4kre(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. Obama >>>>>>>>> has a long way to go before he can claim to be weaned off of >>>>>>>>> the TelePrompter. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the repub >>>>>>>> congressmen, all off the cuff? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Whipping is subjective. >>>>>> >>>>>> Agree. Saw the whole thing. Both sides rose to the occasion and >>>>>> it was a healthy exchange. "Whipping" is a gross overstatement. >>>>> >>>>> The GOP lined up for an hour and asked him prepared question after >>>>> prepared question. They gained no ground whatsoever. Call it >>>>> whatever you want. The Republicans know what happened and will >>>>> never invite him to another debate like this again. >>>> >>>> Pulhleese. Like they're scared of Obama. >>> >>> They are now. >> >> You keep telling yourself that Carbs. > > What do you think the chances are they'll ever ask him to another live, > unscripted television debate? Pretty good.
From: Carbon on 15 Feb 2010 20:37
On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 19:27:23 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b79e03e$0$4847$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:30:40 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4b75eb36$0$5121$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:36:08 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4b749767$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:21:30 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>>>>>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:4b748e2c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:42 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >>>>>>>>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:eni8n5d2ni49tgp0j8pd0dc4p0jroki97j(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:58:12 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In article <sof8n5drfaqjkerbbv1ubt2f5ts6ta5i8l(a)4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:44 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4kre(a)4ax.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama has a long way to go before he can claim to be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> weaned off of the TelePrompter. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> repub congressmen, all off the cuff? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Enough so that the Senators don't want to be embarrassed >>>>>>>>>>>> too. They won't subject themselves to such a drubbing. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Bert! This has been widely publicized. He offered to meet >>>>>>>>>> with them and they said no, not as a large group, just with a >>>>>>>>>> few of the leaders. They obviously don't want a repeat of >>>>>>>>>> the representatives' poor showing. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And the only people saying it was a "drubbing" are left wing >>>>>>>>> blogs. The meeting they want to have on the 25th is just as >>>>>>>>> bogus. Obama has stated he has no plans on starting over on >>>>>>>>> healthcare. So whatever proposals are presented by the Repubs, >>>>>>>>> they will be rejected. The people want a "do-over" on this and >>>>>>>>> so do most Repubs. Obama will not allow that so basically it >>>>>>>>> comes down to nothing more than more Obama Kabuki theater. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jesus. You guys say you've watched it. Are you all blind, or >>>>>>>> what? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We dont have blinders on like you. >>>>>> >>>>>> No, Mike. According to the ceaseless Fox News narrative, Obama is >>>>>> helpless without a teleprompter. He debated the GOP for over an >>>>>> hour, all of them lined up with prepared questions. Not only did >>>>>> he not fall apart, he gave no ground whatsoever. In fact he did >>>>>> very well. It's that simple. The entire narrative is ridiculous >>>>>> and stupid. >>>>> >>>>> I said he did very well. He by no means "drubbed" anyone. >>>> >>>> I'm glad you conceded that much. Most of your fellow travelers are >>>> in denial. As for how well he did, I'm 100% certain that the GOP >>>> will never, ever invite Obama to another unscripted live television >>>> debate. Read into that what you will. >>> >>> There is nothing Obama does that is unscripted. >> >> Really. So at the recent GOP debate he, what, somehow got hold of >> their in advance? Mike, how likely do you think that would have been? > > Very, The GOP asked him prepared, unscripted questions for over an hour. You're grasping at straws. |