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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 16 Feb 2010 13:12 On Feb 16, 12:30 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 16, 10:53 am, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:31 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > > In article <4b79e03e$0$4847$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:30:40 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:4b75eb36$0$5121$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:36:08 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > >>>news:4b749767$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:21:30 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > >>>>>news:4b748e2c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:42 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > > >>>>>>>news:eni8n5d2ni49tgp0j8pd0dc4p0jroki97j(a)4ax.com... > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:58:12 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> In article <sof8n5drfaqjkerbbv1ubt2f5ts6ta5...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > >>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:44 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table.. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama has a long way to go before he can claim to be > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> weaned off of the TelePrompter. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the repub > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> congressmen, all off the cuff? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Enough so that the Senators don't want to be embarrassed too. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They won't subject themselves to such a drubbing. > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bert! This has been widely publicized. He offered to meet > > > > >>>>>>>> with them and they said no, not as a large group, just with a > > > > >>>>>>>> few of the leaders. They obviously don't want a repeat of the > > > > >>>>>>>> representatives' poor showing. > > > > > >>>>>>> And the only people saying it was a "drubbing" are left wing > > > > >>>>>>> blogs. The meeting they want to have on the 25th is just as > > > > >>>>>>> bogus. Obama has stated he has no plans on starting over on > > > > >>>>>>> healthcare. So whatever proposals are presented by the Repubs, > > > > >>>>>>> they will be rejected. The people want a "do-over" on this and > > > > >>>>>>> so do most Repubs. Obama will not allow that so basically it > > > > >>>>>>> comes down to nothing more than more Obama Kabuki theater. > > > > > >>>>>> Jesus. You guys say you've watched it. Are you all blind, or > > > > >>>>>> what? > > > > > >>>>> We dont have blinders on like you. > > > > > >>>> No, Mike. According to the ceaseless Fox News narrative, Obama is > > > > >>>> helpless without a teleprompter. He debated the GOP for over an > > > > >>>> hour, all of them lined up with prepared questions. Not only did he > > > > >>>> not fall apart, he gave no ground whatsoever. In fact he did very > > > > >>>> well. It's that simple. The entire narrative is ridiculous and > > > > >>>> stupid. > > > > > >>> I said he did very well. He by no means "drubbed" anyone. > > > > > >> I'm glad you conceded that much. Most of your fellow travelers are in > > > > >> denial. As for how well he did, I'm 100% certain that the GOP will > > > > >> never, ever invite Obama to another unscripted live television > > > > >> debate. Read into that what you will. > > > > > > There is nothing Obama does that is unscripted. > > > > > Really. So at the recent GOP debate he, what, somehow got hold of their > > > > in advance? Mike, how likely do you think that would have been? > > > > In PalmPalin's case, guaranteed. And she still couldn't handle it > > > without scribbling her "core values" on her palm. > > > Really? Let's put her political achievements up against your academic > > achievements...so you get your D. Phill (doctor phil!) and then you > > have done what exactly, that compares to say being elected as a mayor, > > a governor and selected as a VP candidate for one of the major US > > parties?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > You seem to think that being elected to something is a monumental > achievement that outshines anything else one might accomplish. You got > a Ph.D? Big deal. Sarah Palin got elected Mayor of Wasilla, AK. > > Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate, the U.S. Senate and > the Presidency of the United States. You going to give him the same > credit you give Sarah? Obama is not the issue. Similar record to Palin at the time of the 2008 election though. It's not all that hard to get a Ph.D. More a matter of motivation. It's pretty hard to get elected US senator though.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 16 Feb 2010 13:14 On Feb 16, 12:03 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote: > In article > <1ff423dd-c56a-45c6-8422-c8e1e52c6...(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > On Feb 15, 7:31 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > In article <4b79e03e$0$4847$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:30:40 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > >news:4b75eb36$0$5121$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:36:08 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > >>>news:4b749767$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:21:30 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > >>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > >>>>>news:4b748e2c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:42 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > >>>>>>> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > > >>>>>>>news:eni8n5d2ni49tgp0j8pd0dc4p0jroki97j(a)4ax.com... > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:58:12 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>> In article <sof8n5drfaqjkerbbv1ubt2f5ts6ta5...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > >>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:44 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table.. > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama has a long way to go before he can claim to be > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> weaned off of the TelePrompter. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the repub > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> congressmen, all off the cuff? > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Enough so that the Senators don't want to be embarrassed too. > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They won't subject themselves to such a drubbing. > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bert! This has been widely publicized. He offered to meet > > > > >>>>>>>> with them and they said no, not as a large group, just with a > > > > >>>>>>>> few of the leaders. They obviously don't want a repeat of the > > > > >>>>>>>> representatives' poor showing. > > > > > >>>>>>> And the only people saying it was a "drubbing" are left wing > > > > >>>>>>> blogs. The meeting they want to have on the 25th is just as > > > > >>>>>>> bogus. Obama has stated he has no plans on starting over on > > > > >>>>>>> healthcare. So whatever proposals are presented by the Repubs, > > > > >>>>>>> they will be rejected. The people want a "do-over" on this and > > > > >>>>>>> so do most Repubs. Obama will not allow that so basically it > > > > >>>>>>> comes down to nothing more than more Obama Kabuki theater. > > > > > >>>>>> Jesus. You guys say you've watched it. Are you all blind, or > > > > >>>>>> what? > > > > > >>>>> We dont have blinders on like you. > > > > > >>>> No, Mike. According to the ceaseless Fox News narrative, Obama is > > > > >>>> helpless without a teleprompter. He debated the GOP for over an > > > > >>>> hour, all of them lined up with prepared questions. Not only did he > > > > >>>> not fall apart, he gave no ground whatsoever. In fact he did very > > > > >>>> well. It's that simple. The entire narrative is ridiculous and > > > > >>>> stupid. > > > > > >>> I said he did very well. He by no means "drubbed" anyone. > > > > > >> I'm glad you conceded that much. Most of your fellow travelers are in > > > > >> denial. As for how well he did, I'm 100% certain that the GOP will > > > > >> never, ever invite Obama to another unscripted live television > > > > >> debate. Read into that what you will. > > > > > > There is nothing Obama does that is unscripted. > > > > > Really. So at the recent GOP debate he, what, somehow got hold of their > > > > in advance? Mike, how likely do you think that would have been? > > > > In PalmPalin's case, guaranteed. And she still couldn't handle it > > > without scribbling her "core values" on her palm. > > > Really? Let's put her political achievements up against your academic > > achievements...so you get your D. Phill (doctor phil!) and then you > > have done what exactly, that compares to say being elected as a mayor, > > a governor and selected as a VP candidate for one of the major US > > parties? > > Well, it's true that I have not quit after two years, with the ethics > commission hot on my heels. I have never had to scribble lecture notes > on the palm of my hand, and I have my core values down pat. > > All the supposed "accomplishments" you mention are simply appointments > or elections to office. They indicate absolutely no achievements to > benefit anyone other than herself. That is like giving a faculty member > tenure, and then never having them publish or do research. But perhaps > you can empathize with that a little better than I can. Sorta like an appointment to a faculty position? I suspect it's a lot harder to get elected to the US senate than appointed to a faculty position.
From: William Clark on 16 Feb 2010 13:30 In article <79cb7496-d790-4e70-8bfd-b8149150ba46(a)x22g2000yqx.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Feb 16, 12:09�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > wrote: > > In article > > <6565a483-ab23-4eaf-8492-2abf296b7...(a)j31g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 6:58�pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 08:23:24 -0500, BAR wrote: > > > > > In article <4b7893f6$0$5103$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > > > > > > >> You haven't commented on Obama's performance in the recent live > > > > >> televised debate. Why is that? Could it be that you're so desperate > > > > >> to believe Obama is helpless without a teleprompter that you block > > > > >> out all evidence to the contrary? Perhaps your obvious bias is > > > > >> influencing your predictions about Obama's favorability ratings. > > > > > > > Ok, I'll play. It was not a debate. It was a ask a quesiton and > > > > > receive an answer session. > > > > > > Correct. It was actually tougher than a debate. They were lined up with > > > > carefully prepared question after carefully prepared question, and they > > > > still got nowhere. I am quite certain that the GOP will never invite > > > > Obama to a live, unscripted television debate of this type again. > > > > > I thought Obama sucked in that forum. All he did was deny everything, > > > no real rationale given, just deny. Looks good the the choir though, I > > > suppose. > > > > Sunshine, you are pre-conditioned to believe that Obama "sucks" at > > anything and everything he does. Wrestling with a pig again. > > I suppose, especially if you don't read my posts. No, I don't, I am too busy trying to find any of your "materials science" publications. Coming up empty so far. So is the Science Citation Index.
From: William Clark on 16 Feb 2010 13:31 In article <b907f324-e064-482b-a9d2-6d437a248359(a)y33g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Feb 16, 12:03�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > wrote: > > In article > > <1ff423dd-c56a-45c6-8422-c8e1e52c6...(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 7:31�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > > wrote: > > > > In article <4b79e03e$0$4847$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > �Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:30:40 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:4b75eb36$0$5121$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:36:08 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > >>>news:4b749767$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:21:30 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > >>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > >>>>>news:4b748e2c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:42 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > > > >>>>>>>news:eni8n5d2ni49tgp0j8pd0dc4p0jroki97j(a)4ax.com... > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:58:12 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In article <sof8n5drfaqjkerbbv1ubt2f5ts6ta5...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:44 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama has a long way to go before he can claim to be > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> weaned off of the TelePrompter. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cripes Bert. �Didn't you see the whipping he gave the > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> repub > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> congressmen, all off the cuff? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Enough so that the Senators don't want to be embarrassed > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> too. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They won't subject themselves to such a drubbing. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bert! �This has been widely publicized. �He offered to meet > > > > > >>>>>>>> with them and they said no, not as a large group, just with > > > > > >>>>>>>> a > > > > > >>>>>>>> few of the leaders. �They obviously don't want a repeat of > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>>>> representatives' poor showing. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> And the only people saying it was a "drubbing" are left wing > > > > > >>>>>>> blogs. �The meeting they want to have on the 25th is just as > > > > > >>>>>>> bogus. Obama has stated he has no plans on starting over on > > > > > >>>>>>> healthcare. So whatever proposals are presented by the > > > > > >>>>>>> Repubs, > > > > > >>>>>>> they will be rejected. The people want a "do-over" on this > > > > > >>>>>>> and > > > > > >>>>>>> so do most Repubs. �Obama will not allow that so basically it > > > > > >>>>>>> comes down to nothing more than more Obama Kabuki theater. > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jesus. You guys say you've watched it. Are you all blind, or > > > > > >>>>>> what? > > > > > > > >>>>> We dont have blinders on like you. > > > > > > > >>>> No, Mike. According to the ceaseless Fox News narrative, Obama > > > > > >>>> is > > > > > >>>> helpless without a teleprompter. He debated the GOP for over an > > > > > >>>> hour, all of them lined up with prepared questions. Not only did > > > > > >>>> he > > > > > >>>> not fall apart, he gave no ground whatsoever. In fact he did > > > > > >>>> very > > > > > >>>> well. �It's that simple. The entire narrative is ridiculous and > > > > > >>>> stupid. > > > > > > > >>> I said he did very well. He by no means "drubbed" anyone. > > > > > > > >> I'm glad you conceded that much. Most of your fellow travelers are > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> denial. As for how well he did, I'm 100% certain that the GOP will > > > > > >> never, ever invite Obama to another unscripted live television > > > > > >> debate. �Read into that what you will. > > > > > > > > There is nothing Obama does that is unscripted. > > > > > > > Really. So at the recent GOP debate he, what, somehow got hold of > > > > > their > > > > > in advance? Mike, how likely do you think that would have been? > > > > > > In PalmPalin's case, guaranteed. And she still couldn't handle it > > > > without scribbling her "core values" on her palm. > > > > > Really? Let's put her political achievements up against your academic > > > achievements...so you get your D. Phill (doctor phil!) and then you > > > have done what exactly, that compares to say being elected as a mayor, > > > a governor and selected as a VP candidate for one of the major US > > > parties? > > > > Well, it's true that I have not quit after two years, with the ethics > > commission hot on my heels. I have never had to scribble lecture notes > > on the palm of my hand, and I have my core values down pat. > > > > All the supposed "accomplishments" you mention are simply appointments > > or elections to office. They indicate absolutely no achievements to > > benefit anyone other than herself. That is like giving a faculty member > > tenure, and then never having them publish or do research. But perhaps > > you can empathize with that a little better than I can. > > Sorta like an appointment to a faculty position? I suspect it's a lot > harder to get elected to the US senate than appointed to a faculty > position. Tell that to the woman at UAH.
From: William Clark on 16 Feb 2010 13:32
In article <426168e1-3d62-4f84-bf59-dfcfb6d47537(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Feb 16, 12:30�pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Feb 16, 10:53�am, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 15, 7:31�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > In article <4b79e03e$0$4847$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > �Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 15 Feb 2010 11:30:40 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > >news:4b75eb36$0$5121$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:36:08 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > >>>news:4b749767$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:21:30 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > >>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > > > > >>>>>news:4b748e2c$0$5095$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > > > > >>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:42 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > > > > > >>>>>>>news:eni8n5d2ni49tgp0j8pd0dc4p0jroki97j(a)4ax.com... > > > > > >>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:58:12 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > > >>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In article <sof8n5drfaqjkerbbv1ubt2f5ts6ta5...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > >>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:44 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Obama has a long way to go before he can claim to be > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> weaned off of the TelePrompter. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Cripes Bert. �Didn't you see the whipping he gave the > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> repub > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> congressmen, all off the cuff? > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> Enough so that the Senators don't want to be embarrassed > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> too. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>> They won't subject themselves to such a drubbing. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>> In your dreams only. > > > > > > > >>>>>>>> Bert! �This has been widely publicized. �He offered to meet > > > > > >>>>>>>> with them and they said no, not as a large group, just with > > > > > >>>>>>>> a > > > > > >>>>>>>> few of the leaders. �They obviously don't want a repeat of > > > > > >>>>>>>> the > > > > > >>>>>>>> representatives' poor showing. > > > > > > > >>>>>>> And the only people saying it was a "drubbing" are left wing > > > > > >>>>>>> blogs. �The meeting they want to have on the 25th is just as > > > > > >>>>>>> bogus. Obama has stated he has no plans on starting over on > > > > > >>>>>>> healthcare. So whatever proposals are presented by the > > > > > >>>>>>> Repubs, > > > > > >>>>>>> they will be rejected. The people want a "do-over" on this > > > > > >>>>>>> and > > > > > >>>>>>> so do most Repubs. �Obama will not allow that so basically it > > > > > >>>>>>> comes down to nothing more than more Obama Kabuki theater. > > > > > > > >>>>>> Jesus. You guys say you've watched it. Are you all blind, or > > > > > >>>>>> what? > > > > > > > >>>>> We dont have blinders on like you. > > > > > > > >>>> No, Mike. According to the ceaseless Fox News narrative, Obama > > > > > >>>> is > > > > > >>>> helpless without a teleprompter. He debated the GOP for over an > > > > > >>>> hour, all of them lined up with prepared questions. Not only did > > > > > >>>> he > > > > > >>>> not fall apart, he gave no ground whatsoever. In fact he did > > > > > >>>> very > > > > > >>>> well. �It's that simple. The entire narrative is ridiculous and > > > > > >>>> stupid. > > > > > > > >>> I said he did very well. He by no means "drubbed" anyone. > > > > > > > >> I'm glad you conceded that much. Most of your fellow travelers are > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> denial. As for how well he did, I'm 100% certain that the GOP will > > > > > >> never, ever invite Obama to another unscripted live television > > > > > >> debate. �Read into that what you will. > > > > > > > > There is nothing Obama does that is unscripted. > > > > > > > Really. So at the recent GOP debate he, what, somehow got hold of > > > > > their > > > > > in advance? Mike, how likely do you think that would have been? > > > > > > In PalmPalin's case, guaranteed. And she still couldn't handle it > > > > without scribbling her "core values" on her palm. > > > > > Really? Let's put her political achievements up against your academic > > > achievements...so you get your D. Phill (doctor phil!) and then you > > > have done what exactly, that compares to say being elected as a mayor, > > > a governor and selected as a VP candidate for one of the major US > > > parties?- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > You seem to think that being elected to something is a monumental > > achievement that outshines anything else one might accomplish. You got > > a Ph.D? Big deal. Sarah Palin got elected Mayor of Wasilla, AK. > > > > Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate, the U.S. Senate and > > the Presidency of the United States. You going to give him the same > > credit you give Sarah? > > Obama is not the issue. Similar record to Palin at the time of the > 2008 election though. > > It's not all that hard to get a Ph.D. More a matter of motivation. > It's pretty hard to get elected US senator though. It's not all that hard to get elected to the US Senate. More a matter of money. Pretty hard to get a PhD from a good university, though. |