From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Feb 16, 10:08 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
wrote:
>
> "Jealousy", is it? I do what I love to do, and count it a privilege to
> be able to do so. I stay where I am because I love it here - it is one
> of America's "public ivies". Then I look at you, constantly having to
> try to pull others down to make up for your own lack of achievement, and
> make up phony credentials to try to put yourself on their level. Very
> sad.
>
>You don't see me giving a flying fig about what you may have published. OTOH, you are worried to the point of posting to this group about the nature of materials science pubs I have. I could care less what you like or don't like. It is just a fact that you are envious of me. I don't do my job because it's some sort of epiphytic plant, but rather a chance to do things.

A Ph.D. and a faculty position are in no sense an end; they are a
means to an end. I suspect this is what really bothers you...the idea
that you should be accomplishing things, and that the credentials you
have are in themselves only meaningful in the light of what you are
accomplishing. Nothing else is relevant or meaningful!
>
> I care not about OSU P&T - the standards are the same at any reputable
> university. You probably didn't have to match up to them, though, did
> you? You have no peer reviewed materials science publications anywhere
> in your record. Science Citation Index says so.
>

Firstly, I do have at least one such peer reviewed publication,
although I never claimed so previously. This peer review issue is yet
another red herring you introduced into the discussion.
>
> Who "works for industry"? Contract work is never acceptable for P&T -
> only scientific publications in the best peer reviewed journals count.
> You are delusional.
>
And you thereby are incompetent. How much money you bring in is the #1
criterion for P&T in research, and you should know this. If I applied
for a job in your department and showed that I could bring in 10
million worth of funding every year with say a 40% overhead, they
would hire me, regardless of the opinion of one such as yourself with
respect to the "quality" of publications.

> Well, one admission is a start. I urge you you be healed, and purge
> yourself by confessing what we all know  - you don't have anything else,
> either. You will feel much better, and the Baptists will welcome you
> back like a prodigal son.

Meds wearing off? Why would I care what Baptists think?

From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Feb 17, 9:18 am, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 11:56 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
>
> > On 16-Feb-2010, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > It's not all that hard to get elected to the US Senate. More a matter of
> > > money. Pretty hard to get a PhD from a good university, though.
>
> > I'm sure the US Senate welcomes fewer new members each year than Oxford
> > hands out DPhs
>
> > --
> > bill-o
>
> Yes, that makes sense given that there are only 100 Senate seats and
> only about a third of them are contested every election year. The
> Senate has "welcomed" some pretty dim bulbs who couldn't get an Oxford
> D. Phil. if their life depended on it.

OTOH, Oxford has surely given graduate degrees to self absorbed twits
who cannot formulate the notion that they should be of service to
their communities, let alone actually be such!
From: William Clark on
In article
<f74dfd04-3f70-4cb2-a0fb-bce55945b7b2(a)d27g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

> On Feb 17, 9:18�am, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Feb 16, 11:56�pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> >
> > > On 16-Feb-2010, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > It's not all that hard to get elected to the US Senate. More a matter of
> > > > money. Pretty hard to get a PhD from a good university, though.
> >
> > > I'm sure the US Senate welcomes fewer new members each year than Oxford
> > > hands out DPhs
> >
> > > --
> > > bill-o
> >
> > Yes, that makes sense given that there are only 100 Senate seats and
> > only about a third of them are contested every election year. The
> > Senate has "welcomed" some pretty dim bulbs who couldn't get an Oxford
> > D. Phil. if their life depended on it.
>
> OTOH, Oxford has surely given graduate degrees to self absorbed twits
> who cannot formulate the notion that they should be of service to
> their communities, let alone actually be such!

But usually they are not consumed by the anger of envy like you are.
From: William Clark on
In article <7u2g5vFiqcU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4b7b4aa8$0$5080$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:58:43 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:
> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
> >> news:wclark2-136058.13321416022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
> >>> In article
> >>> <426168e1-3d62-4f84-bf59-dfcfb6d47537(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
> >>> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
> >>>> On Feb 16, 12:30 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You seem to think that being elected to something is a monumental
> >>>>> achievement that outshines anything else one might accomplish. You
> >>>>> got a Ph.D? Big deal. Sarah Palin got elected Mayor of Wasilla, AK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate, the U.S. Senate and
> >>>>> the Presidency of the United States. You going to give him the same
> >>>>> credit you give Sarah?
> >>>>
> >>>> Obama is not the issue. Similar record to Palin at the time of the
> >>>> 2008 election though.
> >>>>
> >>>> It's not all that hard to get a Ph.D. More a matter of motivation.
> >>>> It's pretty hard to get elected US senator though.
> >>>
> >>> It's not all that hard to get elected to the US Senate. More a matter
> >>> of money. Pretty hard to get a PhD from a good university, though.
> >>
> >> Too bad you didnt go to one.
> >
> > Be serious. Oxford is one of the best universities in the world.
>
> Well, I only know one guy who went to Oxford. So I base my opinion on that.
> :-)

Sorry, you don't "know" me at all.
From: William Clark on
In article
<4a71efed-20c0-48ea-badf-538fecb79bde(a)w31g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>,
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

> On Feb 13, 12:29�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> wrote:
> > In article
> > <de2e5548-0783-4608-a88a-d906c877b...(a)36g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> >
> >
> > �Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > On Feb 13, 11:05�am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:18:11 -0600, Moderate wrote:
> > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > >news:4b7497cf$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > > > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:19:44 -0800, dene wrote:
> > > > >>> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > > >>>news:heu8n5t5m6bopoc55sburstujj9897ii1t(a)4ax.com...
> > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:31:23 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur Sr
> > > > >>>> <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > >>>> You're kidding. �Biden wasted Palin in debate, �and he's a
> > > > >>>> lightweight. �She's a joke that is riding a wave of simple minds.
> >
> > > > >>> In your dreams. �Palin did just fine with Blabben.
> >
> > > > >> She was drilled night and day going into the debate and managed to
> > > > >> repeat a bunch of memorized sound bites, mostly without embarrassing
> > > > >> herself. It's not like she did well.
> >
> > > > > Well I guess that qualifies her to be President. �Obama is nothing
> > > > > more than a talking head. �He is the Commander in Chief, yet he
> > > > > doesn't know what a Corpsman is.
> >
> > > > Watch the recent live unscripted debate between Obama and the GOP.
> >
> > > Debate? A debate has a form, that was one person asking a question,
> > > another replying and then moving on to some other question. Hardly a
> > > debate. In that form there is no viewpoint expressed other than that
> > > of the person answering the questions. A joke maybe, but no debate.
> >
> > Then how come SarahQuitter couldn't manage even a scripted Q&A without
> > scrawling notes on her palm like some 3rd grader?
>
> What does anything anyone else do have to do with Obama's presentation
> style? It is what it is regardless. Can't you focus at all?

"Anything anyone else DOES" please. Can't you write English at all? Tell
you what, scrawl on your palm so you have it for next time.