From: William Clark on 17 Feb 2010 14:34
In article <MPG.25e3b1c585f863a5989bc6(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <4b79e07b$0$4847$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
> > You know the picture of her with writing on her hand is from like 1990,
> > correct?
> Does that mean she has been stupid or senile for 20 years?
No, nor does it mean she is Barbara Boxer, either.
From: MNMikeW on 17 Feb 2010 14:37
"William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message
> In article <7u2g5vFiqcU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
> "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 13:58:43 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:
>> >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:wclark2-136058.13321416022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu...
>> >>> In article
>> >>> <426168e1-3d62-4f84-bf59-dfcfb6d47537(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
>> >>> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
>> >>>> On Feb 16, 12:30 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> You seem to think that being elected to something is a monumental
>> >>>>> achievement that outshines anything else one might accomplish. You
>> >>>>> got a Ph.D? Big deal. Sarah Palin got elected Mayor of Wasilla, AK.
>> >>>>> Obama was elected to the Illinois State Senate, the U.S. Senate and
>> >>>>> the Presidency of the United States. You going to give him the same
>> >>>>> credit you give Sarah?
>> >>>> Obama is not the issue. Similar record to Palin at the time of the
>> >>>> 2008 election though.
>> >>>> It's not all that hard to get a Ph.D. More a matter of motivation.
>> >>>> It's pretty hard to get elected US senator though.
>> >>> It's not all that hard to get elected to the US Senate. More a matter
>> >>> of money. Pretty hard to get a PhD from a good university, though.
>> >> Too bad you didnt go to one.
>> > Be serious. Oxford is one of the best universities in the world.
>> Well, I only know one guy who went to Oxford. So I base my opinion on
> Sorry, you don't "know" me at all.
I know all I need to from here.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 17 Feb 2010 14:38
On Feb 17, 2:30 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> In article
> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 17, 9:18 am, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Feb 16, 11:56 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> > > > On 16-Feb-2010, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > It's not all that hard to get elected to the US Senate. More a matter of
> > > > > money. Pretty hard to get a PhD from a good university, though.
> > > > I'm sure the US Senate welcomes fewer new members each year than Oxford
> > > > hands out DPhs
> > > > --
> > > > bill-o
> > > Yes, that makes sense given that there are only 100 Senate seats and
> > > only about a third of them are contested every election year. The
> > > Senate has "welcomed" some pretty dim bulbs who couldn't get an Oxford
> > > D. Phil. if their life depended on it.
> > OTOH, Oxford has surely given graduate degrees to self absorbed twits
> > who cannot formulate the notion that they should be of service to
> > their communities, let alone actually be such!
> But usually they are not consumed by the anger of envy like you are.
I suppose. At least you admit that Oxford gives degrees to useless,
self absorbed twits!
From: William Clark on 17 Feb 2010 14:38
Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:
> On Feb 16, 10:08�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> > "Jealousy", is it? I do what I love to do, and count it a privilege to
> > be able to do so. I stay where I am because I love it here - it is one
> > of America's "public ivies". Then I look at you, constantly having to
> > try to pull others down to make up for your own lack of achievement, and
> > make up phony credentials to try to put yourself on their level. Very
> > sad.
> >You don't see me giving a flying fig about what you may have published.
> >OTOH, you are worried to the point of posting to this group about the nature
> >of materials science pubs I have. I could care less what you like or don't
> >like. It is just a fact that you are envious of me. I don't do my job
> >because it's some sort of epiphytic plant, but rather a chance to do things.
> A Ph.D. and a faculty position are in no sense an end; they are a
> means to an end. I suspect this is what really bothers you...the idea
> that you should be accomplishing things, and that the credentials you
> have are in themselves only meaningful in the light of what you are
> accomplishing. Nothing else is relevant or meaningful!
Whoever said they were? Oh, that's right, you did. The rest is pure
> > I care not about OSU P&T - the standards are the same at any reputable
> > university. You probably didn't have to match up to them, though, did
> > you? You have no peer reviewed materials science publications anywhere
> > in your record. Science Citation Index says so.
> Firstly, I do have at least one such peer reviewed publication,
> although I never claimed so previously. This peer review issue is yet
> another red herring you introduced into the discussion.
Not according to the Science Citation Index, you don't. Period.
> > Who "works for industry"? Contract work is never acceptable for P&T -
> > only scientific publications in the best peer reviewed journals count.
> > You are delusional.
> And you thereby are incompetent. How much money you bring in is the #1
> criterion for P&T in research, and you should know this. If I applied
> for a job in your department and showed that I could bring in 10
> million worth of funding every year with say a 40% overhead, they
> would hire me, regardless of the opinion of one such as yourself with
> respect to the "quality" of publications.
So, are you really so consumed by the spectre of non-achievement that
you have to create this absurd strawman to comfort yourself with? How
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 17 Feb 2010 14:39
On Feb 17, 2:33 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-
> In article
> Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > On Feb 13, 12:29 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com>
> > wrote:
> > > In article
> > > <de2e5548-0783-4608-a88a-d906c877b...(a)36g2000yqu.googlegroups.com>,
> > > Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > > On Feb 13, 11:05 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:18:11 -0600, Moderate wrote:
> > > > > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > > > > >news:4b7497cf$0$5110$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> > > > > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:19:44 -0800, dene wrote:
> > > > > >>> <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > > > >>>news:heu8n5t5m6bopoc55sburstujj9897ii1t(a)4ax.com...
> > > > > >>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:31:23 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur Sr
> > > > > >>>> <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote:
> > > > > >>>> You're kidding. Biden wasted Palin in debate, and he's a
> > > > > >>>> lightweight. She's a joke that is riding a wave of simple minds.
> > > > > >>> In your dreams. Palin did just fine with Blabben.
> > > > > >> She was drilled night and day going into the debate and managed to
> > > > > >> repeat a bunch of memorized sound bites, mostly without embarrassing
> > > > > >> herself. It's not like she did well.
> > > > > > Well I guess that qualifies her to be President. Obama is nothing
> > > > > > more than a talking head. He is the Commander in Chief, yet he
> > > > > > doesn't know what a Corpsman is.
> > > > > Watch the recent live unscripted debate between Obama and the GOP..
> > > > Debate? A debate has a form, that was one person asking a question,
> > > > another replying and then moving on to some other question. Hardly a
> > > > debate. In that form there is no viewpoint expressed other than that
> > > > of the person answering the questions. A joke maybe, but no debate.
> > > Then how come SarahQuitter couldn't manage even a scripted Q&A without
> > > scrawling notes on her palm like some 3rd grader?
> > What does anything anyone else do have to do with Obama's presentation
> > style? It is what it is regardless. Can't you focus at all?
> "Anything anyone else DOES" please. Can't you write English at all? Tell
> you what, scrawl on your palm so you have it for next time.