From: Howard Brazee on
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:30:11 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote:

>> Just curious - what's the difference here between public employees and
>> private employees?
>
>Think about it Howard. Governments do not have the profit/loss constraints.
>As such they have ended up forming an unholy allience with the unions; pay
>for support. Elected officials end up working with union bosses against the
>interests of the majority of the people.

And Corporate bosses have worked with Union bosses against the long
term interests of the union members and the companies.

Governments have run unsafe organizations that unions put in safety
regulations (Rocky Flats).

I remember when the Teamsters could put stop the whole country by
striking against virtually everybody - as private employees.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 07:12:17 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote:

>> You lose. As bad as he was, Carter's IQ makes Palin look like a
>> ten-year-old.
>
>'I'm sorry but IQ don't mean squat. What have you done? Carter was a poor
>President and a lackluster Governor. Jury is still out on Palin.

And everybody who used W's pronunciation of "nuclear" as evidence of
his stupidity needs to do the same thing with nuclear engineer Carter
who had the same pronunciation.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: William Clark on
In article <VKObn.30235$fu3.100(a)newsfe12.iad>, assimilate(a)borg.org
wrote:

> On 7-Feb-2010, William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > Whoever wrote them, they wouldn't be able to get away with injecting
> > > > obvious bias into them.
> > >
> > > you haven't been to a campus lately have you? One of the last classes I
> > > ever
> > > took was innocuously titled "Literary Theory." It was a graduate seminar
> > > organized around variations on Marxist thought (though not explicitly
> > > labeled as such).
> >
> > Indeed, I have a class tomorrow in the "Stalinist Approach to Crystal
> > Structures and Characterization". Get real.
>
> The hard sciences at least have reality as a check; the Humanities have
> become a Marxist wasteland.

Aaaaah, starting to qualify our sweeping generalizations, are we? About
time.
From: William Clark on
In article <alangbaker-EA28F9.19091307022010(a)news.shawcable.com>,
Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:

> In article
> <clark-D65648.22083507022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
> William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
>
> > In article <tTHbn.75092$JE2.71270(a)newsfe09.iad>, assimilate(a)borg.org
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On 7-Feb-2010, William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > But if one guy with money will vote to evict ten poor people, we will
> > > > call that "democracy"? I don't think so.
> > >
> > > eviction is a result of not meeting one's contractual obligations and not
> > > of
> > > some vote taken.
> >
> > No, it can also be the result of someone buying out and tearing up a
> > valid contract of a fully paid up tenant.
> >
> > You need to get out more.
>
> Give a concrete example.

Alan, grow up a little - you only have to read your local papers to see
incidents like this. You are starting to sound like Bertie.
>
> And then deal with the fact that you've assumed that those tenants will
> have no vote...

No, I am assuming they are effectively disenfranchised because someone
has multiple votes and cancels them out and then has additional votes
that count.
From: William Clark on
In article <xRLbn.75205$JE2.30104(a)newsfe09.iad>,
"Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-EA28F9.19091307022010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article
> > <clark-D65648.22083507022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
> > William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> In article <tTHbn.75092$JE2.71270(a)newsfe09.iad>, assimilate(a)borg.org
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On 7-Feb-2010, William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > But if one guy with money will vote to evict ten poor people, we will
> >> > > call that "democracy"? I don't think so.
> >> >
> >> > eviction is a result of not meeting one's contractual obligations and
> >> > not of
> >> > some vote taken.
> >>
> >> No, it can also be the result of someone buying out and tearing up a
> >> valid contract of a fully paid up tenant.
> >>
> >> You need to get out more.
> >
> > Give a concrete example.
>
>
> I love how some people like to pretend that we don't already have in place a
> legal system to handle such problems.
>
>
> >
> > And then deal with the fact that you've assumed that those tenants will
> > have no vote...
>
> Perhaps we need to cut William some slack on this. Given that this is just
> a theoretical excercise we are kicking around in here he is not able to log
> onto any left wing blogs to learn why he is against it.

Other than history . . .