From: Alan Baker on
In article
<b2a74ab3-c5cb-45d4-ab83-9d44fe40edc4(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>,
"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 6, 8:07�pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
> > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:ae8a32c0-f97f-4e25-ad48-467fb695fa32(a)o3g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
> >
> > > In a speech to the Tea Party convention, Tancredo said Obama was a
> > > "committed socialist ideologue," who was elected by people who can't
> > > read or write. He said a civics literacy test should be a prerequisite
> > > for voting. I'm just wondering what the Republicans here think about
> > > this. Do you defend him?
> >
> > I think Obama is a socialist in the sense that he wants to enact socialist
> > policies.
> >
> > I do not think that the people who elected him "can't read or write". �That
> > is stupid.
> >
> > A civics literacy test would be a fantastic prerequisite. �It will never
> > happen. �Another good idea would be to just accept the fact that elections
> > are nothing more than spoils systems nowadays and weight votes based on how
> > much income tax an individual pays. �Bring in your previous year's tax
> > returns and your vote is thusly weighted. �It will also never happen.
> >
> > Of course not being a Republican my opinion is not what you are looking for.
>
> So, votes cast by people who make a lot of money should count for more
> than those cast by people who don't?

Why not? I don't know that it will produce good government, but it will
counter-balance this trend we have that we can simply tax those who've
got a lot because there are lots who have less to make it happen.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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From: Frank Ketchum on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b2a74ab3-c5cb-45d4-ab83-9d44fe40edc4(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 6, 8:07 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:ae8a32c0-f97f-4e25-ad48-467fb695fa32(a)o3g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>
> > In a speech to the Tea Party convention, Tancredo said Obama was a
> > "committed socialist ideologue," who was elected by people who can't
> > read or write. He said a civics literacy test should be a prerequisite
> > for voting. I'm just wondering what the Republicans here think about
> > this. Do you defend him?
>
> I think Obama is a socialist in the sense that he wants to enact socialist
> policies.
>
> I do not think that the people who elected him "can't read or write". That
> is stupid.
>
> A civics literacy test would be a fantastic prerequisite. It will never
> happen. Another good idea would be to just accept the fact that elections
> are nothing more than spoils systems nowadays and weight votes based on
> how
> much income tax an individual pays. Bring in your previous year's tax
> returns and your vote is thusly weighted. It will also never happen.
>
> Of course not being a Republican my opinion is not what you are looking
> for.

So, votes cast by people who make a lot of money should count for more
than those cast by people who don't?

- - -

No, I suggested weight be given to those who pay the most in taxes since
they are financing government. Let he who pays for it decide how to use it.
What is wrong with that?


From: John B. on
On Feb 6, 8:35 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b2a74ab3-c5cb-45d4-ab83-9d44fe40edc4(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 6, 8:07 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ae8a32c0-f97f-4e25-ad48-467fb695fa32(a)o3g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > In a speech to the Tea Party convention, Tancredo said Obama was a
> > > "committed socialist ideologue," who was elected by people who can't
> > > read or write. He said a civics literacy test should be a prerequisite
> > > for voting. I'm just wondering what the Republicans here think about
> > > this. Do you defend him?
>
> > I think Obama is a socialist in the sense that he wants to enact socialist
> > policies.
>
> > I do not think that the people who elected him "can't read or write". That
> > is stupid.
>
> > A civics literacy test would be a fantastic prerequisite. It will never
> > happen. Another good idea would be to just accept the fact that elections
> > are nothing more than spoils systems nowadays and weight votes based on
> > how
> > much income tax an individual pays. Bring in your previous year's tax
> > returns and your vote is thusly weighted. It will also never happen.
>
> > Of course not being a Republican my opinion is not what you are looking
> > for.
>
> So, votes cast by people who make a lot of money should count for more
> than those cast by people who don't?
>
> - - -
>
> No, I suggested weight be given to those who pay the most in taxes since
> they are financing government.  Let he who pays for it decide how to use it.
> What is wrong with that?

What do you mean by "weight"?
From: Frank Ketchum on

"John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:b5b4fc62-1eb4-4744-9d69-ad9972e5ff31(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
On Feb 6, 8:35 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:b2a74ab3-c5cb-45d4-ab83-9d44fe40edc4(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 6, 8:07 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:ae8a32c0-f97f-4e25-ad48-467fb695fa32(a)o3g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>
> > > In a speech to the Tea Party convention, Tancredo said Obama was a
> > > "committed socialist ideologue," who was elected by people who can't
> > > read or write. He said a civics literacy test should be a prerequisite
> > > for voting. I'm just wondering what the Republicans here think about
> > > this. Do you defend him?
>
> > I think Obama is a socialist in the sense that he wants to enact
> > socialist
> > policies.
>
> > I do not think that the people who elected him "can't read or write".
> > That
> > is stupid.
>
> > A civics literacy test would be a fantastic prerequisite. It will never
> > happen. Another good idea would be to just accept the fact that
> > elections
> > are nothing more than spoils systems nowadays and weight votes based on
> > how
> > much income tax an individual pays. Bring in your previous year's tax
> > returns and your vote is thusly weighted. It will also never happen.
>
> > Of course not being a Republican my opinion is not what you are looking
> > for.
>
> So, votes cast by people who make a lot of money should count for more
> than those cast by people who don't?
>
> - - -
>
> No, I suggested weight be given to those who pay the most in taxes since
> they are financing government. Let he who pays for it decide how to use
> it.
> What is wrong with that?

What do you mean by "weight"?

- - -

Well for example let's say that every person automatically gets one vote.
Then in addition say that for every thousand dollars a person pays in income
taxes they get another vote. Doing something like this would weight votes
on what government should do based on who is paying for it. If you pay $12k
dollars in income taxes you get two votes.


From: Frank Ketchum on

"Frank Ketchum" <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote in message
news:1mqbn.35793$Fm7.7043(a)newsfe16.iad...
>
> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:b5b4fc62-1eb4-4744-9d69-ad9972e5ff31(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
> On Feb 6, 8:35 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
>> "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:b2a74ab3-c5cb-45d4-ab83-9d44fe40edc4(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Feb 6, 8:07 pm, "Frank Ketchum" <nos...(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:ae8a32c0-f97f-4e25-ad48-467fb695fa32(a)o3g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > > In a speech to the Tea Party convention, Tancredo said Obama was a
>> > > "committed socialist ideologue," who was elected by people who can't
>> > > read or write. He said a civics literacy test should be a
>> > > prerequisite
>> > > for voting. I'm just wondering what the Republicans here think about
>> > > this. Do you defend him?
>>
>> > I think Obama is a socialist in the sense that he wants to enact
>> > socialist
>> > policies.
>>
>> > I do not think that the people who elected him "can't read or write".
>> > That
>> > is stupid.
>>
>> > A civics literacy test would be a fantastic prerequisite. It will never
>> > happen. Another good idea would be to just accept the fact that
>> > elections
>> > are nothing more than spoils systems nowadays and weight votes based on
>> > how
>> > much income tax an individual pays. Bring in your previous year's tax
>> > returns and your vote is thusly weighted. It will also never happen.
>>
>> > Of course not being a Republican my opinion is not what you are looking
>> > for.
>>
>> So, votes cast by people who make a lot of money should count for more
>> than those cast by people who don't?
>>
>> - - -
>>
>> No, I suggested weight be given to those who pay the most in taxes since
>> they are financing government. Let he who pays for it decide how to use
>> it.
>> What is wrong with that?
>
> What do you mean by "weight"?
>
> - - -
>
> Well for example let's say that every person automatically gets one vote.
> Then in addition say that for every thousand dollars a person pays in
> income taxes they get another vote. Doing something like this would
> weight votes on what government should do based on who is paying for it.
> If you pay $12k dollars in income taxes you get two votes.

Sorry, obviously using my example I meant to say if you pay $1200 in income
taxes you get two votes.