From: MNMikeW on

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 13:06:04 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Tell us Mike -- what would have happened if Obama and Congress had not
>>passed the stimulus?
>
> Or alternatively implemented the stimulus in a different direction -
> maybe valuing lots of jobs over Big Business?
>
Or valuing jobs over big government.


From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:36:06 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>>On 08 Feb 2010 22:58:59 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 10:57:50 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:
>>>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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>>>>> On Mon, 8 Feb 2010 10:00:18 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Who do you think makes his decisions? Names.
>>>>
>>>> Nancy Pelosi
>>>> Rahm "dead fish" Emanual
>>>> Andy Stern and his SEIU thugs.
>>>>
>>>> just to name a few.
>>>
>>>You're delusional.
>>
>>The legislative agenda is completely in the hands of Nancy and Harry.
>>Obama isn't even in the loop. Obama will sign anything they send him.
>>he doesn't even know what's in the legislation.
>>
>>Other than that, Obama does what Emanuel and his Union bosses tell him
>>to do.
>
> You know this for sure, right? Just more ultra-right babbling.
>
> BK

As compared to Carbs ultra-left babbling?


From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:49:38 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote:
>
>>
>>On 8-Feb-2010, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote:
>>
>>> >The legislative agenda is completely in the hands of Nancy and Harry.
>>> >Obama isn't even in the loop. Obama will sign anything they send him.
>>> >he doesn't even know what's in the legislation.
>>> >
>>> >Other than that, Obama does what Emanuel and his Union bosses tell him
>>> >to do.
>>>
>>> You know this for sure, right? Just more ultra-right babbling.
>>
>>Bobby his actions in favor of the unions suggest just as much
>
> If he caters to that group it doesn't mean that they tell him what to
> do. Saying that just smacks of childishness.
>
> BK

Obama wanted an across the board tax on the "cadillac health plans". The
Unions told him, oh no you don't.



From: Moderate on

"MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Obama wanted an across the board tax on the "cadillac health plans". The
> Unions told him, oh no you don't.

Don't forget that the Unions also do the President's bidding. Let's not
forget the SEIU thug violence at early tea party rallies. Once they got the
bad press the goons were called off. You don't see any more SEIU thugs at
tea parties.


From: John B. on
On Feb 8, 10:37 pm, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> On  8-Feb-2010, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Far smaller? You're going to have a tough time proving that. Without
> > the stimulus, would we have unemployment below 10% today? Would GDP
> > have grown 2.2% in the third quarter of 2009 and 5.7% in the fourth?
>
> The Federal Government has intervened in two and only two recessions: this
> one and the Great Depression. See a pattern?
>
> --
> bill-o

Two events do no make a representative sample. Nonetheless, the
parallels I see are (A) that Hoover's do-nothing policy during the
first three years of the Depression made it worse and (B) FDR's
immediate intervention in the economy through government spending
stabilized it in 1933, although obviously not permanently.