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From: John B. on 10 Feb 2010 19:56 On Feb 10, 7:14 pm, David Laville <dlavi...(a)nospam.net> wrote: > On 09 Feb 2010 03:48:20 GMT, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > > >Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips: > > >"From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to 20 > >percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than that... but > >Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened enforcement of the > >Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register as Democrats in the > >South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit the Democrats and > >become Republicans. That's where the votes are. Without that prodding > >from the blacks, the whites will backslide into their old comfortable > >arrangement with the local Democrats." > > Very clever Carby, make sure to use only what you want people to see > so it supports your argument. This is what you didn't include in that > first sentence: > > "Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to former > Richard Nixon strategist turned liberal political commentator Kevin > Phillips, he did not originate it,[1] but merely popularized it.[2] In > an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on > its essence:" > > Tell us Carby, the person who always demands "objectivity", why did > you leave out that little piece of information that identified > Phillips as a liberal? > > I'll ask you again, name this masses of racist migrating over to the > republicans. > > David Laville G.S.E.M. > The Golfing Machine Authorized Instructor I don't know what this is, but it is flat-out wrong to identify Kevin Phillips as a liberal. He is a conservative who hated the Bush family. Apparently, in some circles that makes him a liberal.
From: Moderate on 10 Feb 2010 20:16 "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message news:clark-2E8C9B.09512510022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article <hkucap$45e$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, > "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > >> "William Clark" <wclark2(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:wclark2-5484D7.06572310022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... >> > In article <4b72976f$0$12444$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net>, >> > "Moderate" <sparky@_engineer_.com> wrote: >> > >> >> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >> I didn't see your reply and I wasn't talking to you, anyway. >> >> ******************************************** >> >> >> >> ... but you did move the goal posts. Gottcha. >> > >> > Did you have that punch line written on the palm of your hand? >> >> Please try and keep up William. We were not discussing your rosy palm. > > No, it's just that "gotcha" is about as long a word as either you or the > Palinquitter could manage. And both of you need a prompter to answer a > simple, staged, question. Whereas you and Obama would sooner tell a lie than the truth.
From: Jack Hollis on 10 Feb 2010 20:21 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:53:39 -0800 (PST), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >On Feb 9, 9:39=A0pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:02:37 -0600, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: >> >You know Jack, I might be willing to discuss this with Mike, or >> >Ketchum, or another conservative, but you, and a couple of others here >> >are so inane with the ultra-right messages that I won't waste my time. >> >Of all the posts that you've delivered here for instance the one about >> >Palin possibly being elected president renders you certifiable insane. >> >> >BK >> >> Right now, the polls show that she's the leading contender for the >> Republican nomination. =A0I'd gladly vote for her over Obama. > >Right now, the polls have no predictive value whatsoever. I was looking at the Vegas odds for president in 2012 and Palin was tied for third with Hillary. Obviously, Obama is the strong favorite followed by Romney. Of course, once the Republicans nominate their candidate, the odds get much closer. There's no way you can totally dismiss her chances. If Obama has three more years like the last one, it doesn't really matter who the Republicans put up.
From: dene on 10 Feb 2010 20:27 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b73448e$0$4877$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:07:50 -0800, dene wrote: > > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > > news:4b722885$0$30937$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > >> On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:59:47 -0500, BAR wrote: > >>> In article <4b71f275$0$4941$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > >>> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says... > >>>> On Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:09:32 -0800, dene wrote: > >>>>> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >>>>> news:a2p1n551rk6l1347r88pr3qlrmrk7cbpsn(a)4ax.com... > >>>>>> On Tue, 9 Feb 2010 03:46:50 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote: > >>>>>>> On 8-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Jury is still out on Palin. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> In what respect, Bill? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> she is still active and could serve in public office again. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> If the GOP has any possibility of winning in '12 it sure won't be > >>>>>> with her on the ticket. > >>>>> > >>>>> Agree....for now, but look how many dismissed Ronald Reagan as a B > >>>>> movie star. Somehow...he turned out ok. She could evolve into a > >>>>> serious contender but as it stands now, she has zippo chance of > >>>>> becoming our next President in 2012. > >>>> > >>>> That is very hard to imagine. Palin is a dull normal, unfit for > >>>> high office even as a Republican. I just can't see her fooling > >>>> enough voters to win a national election. > >>> > >>> Whom did you vote for in November of 2008 for POTUS? > >> > >> I win. > > > > No....you got fooled. > > I thought Obama was going to beat Hillary back when nearly everyone > assumed she would win. I knew if he got the nomination he would beat > whoever the Republicans nominated. And then of course McCain picked the > dingbat and "solved" the financial crisis, and by then the inevitable > was obvious to everyone. I also said that Obama is more of a pragmatic > centrist than either the right or left realizes, that the far left would > feel betrayed even as the center right found they could work with him. > From where I sit, I'm one of the few who didn't get fooled. If you believed in hope and change, along with a catalogue of other campaign promises, then you got fooled. Don't feel bad.....so did the majority of Americans....this time. They will not be fooled again in 2010 and 2012. -Greg
From: Carbon on 10 Feb 2010 20:41
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:14:50 -0600, David Laville wrote: > On 09 Feb 2010 03:48:20 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > >> Nixon strategist Kevin Phillips: >> >> "From now on, the Republicans are never going to get more than 10 to >> 20 percent of the Negro vote and they don't need any more than >> that... but Republicans would be shortsighted if they weakened >> enforcement of the Voting Rights Act. The more Negroes who register >> as Democrats in the South, the sooner the Negrophobe whites will quit >> the Democrats and become Republicans. That's where the votes are. >> Without that prodding from the blacks, the whites will backslide into >> their old comfortable arrangement with the local Democrats." > > Very clever Carby, make sure to use only what you want people to see > so it supports your argument. This is what you didn't include in that > first sentence: > > "Although the phrase "Southern strategy" is often attributed to former > Richard Nixon strategist turned liberal political commentator Kevin > Phillips, he did not originate it,[1] but merely popularized it.[2] In > an interview included in a 1970 New York Times article, he touched on > its essence:" > > Tell us Carby, the person who always demands "objectivity", why did > you leave out that little piece of information that identified > Phillips as a liberal? > > I'll ask you again, name this masses of racist migrating over to the > republicans. Showing up to spew a little more bile, eh David? I am sorry that you are so unhappy in your life. Perhaps that's what caused you to jump the gun the way you did. As your own quote observes, before Phillips became a liberal political commentator he was a campaign strategist for Richard Nixon. He obviously would have thoroughly understood the strategies used in Nixon's campaigns and was therefore more than qualified to speak about them. |