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From: BAR on 11 Feb 2010 16:02 In article <6fp8n51qh9jjlogikh7r51l72mn7ik89v2(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:12:07 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > wrote: > > > > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >news:thn8n5d2itso3t5qqscda090142v3f1lc9(a)4ax.com... > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:39:16 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>>"This is not starting over," one White House official said, who requested > >>>anonymity in order to discuss administration strategy. "Don't make any > >>>mistake about that. We are coming with our plan. They can bring their > >>>plan." > >>> > >>>The official added: "What the president will not do is let this moment > >>>slip > >>>away. He hopes to have Republican support in doing so -- but he is going > >>>to > >>>move forward on health reform." > >>> > >>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/07/AR2010020703003.html > >>> > >> A "White House official" who remains anonymous? How about a quote > >> from Barack Obama, not anonymous, from the very cite you list above? > >> > >> "I want to consult closely with our Republican colleagues," Obama > >> said. "What I want to do is to ask them to put their ideas on the > >> table. . . . I want to come back and have a large meeting, Republicans > >> and Democrats, to go through, systematically, all the best ideas that > >> are out there and move it forward." > >> > >> > >> Do you guys just not see these quotes, or just pass over them because > >> they don't fit your stance? > >> > >> This was almost at the top of the story, and the anonymous official's > >> quote, which only says that he's moving forward, was almost at the > >> bottom. > >> > >Bobby, if he is not willing to start over on this it dosent matter one bit > >what the Repubs have to offer! Obama just wants to look non-partisan when in > >reality he is all partisan all the time. Unless you start over, you cannot > >move forward. Period! > > > In the first place, "This is not starting over" came from an > anonymous person. Secondly, you certainly can move forward without > starting over. Think this one out. Find those areas where there is > some agreement and go from there. Now, if there is absolutely no > agreement anywhere, then find some. You are either sniffing, smoking or drinking something. You are believing the hype and PR spin. Unless the source is willing to be named someone is putting out a feeler to see how the proposal will be received. Obama has no intention of listening to the Republican's ideas. It will be a photo op and nothing more. I can't believe your naivet�.
From: Jack Hollis on 11 Feb 2010 16:13 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 18:21:44 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >> I would not count Obama out. You guys have underestimated him before. > >His best chance at relection would occur if the Republicans take control, as >they did in '94. Americans are largely uncomfortable with one party rule. > >-Greg It's unlikely that the Republicans will gain majority in the Senate. Gaining control of the House is more likely, but I wouldn't bet on it.
From: MNMikeW on 11 Feb 2010 16:16 <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:6fp8n51qh9jjlogikh7r51l72mn7ik89v2(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:12:07 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> > wrote: > >> >><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >>news:thn8n5d2itso3t5qqscda090142v3f1lc9(a)4ax.com... >>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:39:16 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiikkew(a)aol.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>"This is not starting over," one White House official said, who >>>>requested >>>>anonymity in order to discuss administration strategy. "Don't make any >>>>mistake about that. We are coming with our plan. They can bring their >>>>plan." >>>> >>>>The official added: "What the president will not do is let this moment >>>>slip >>>>away. He hopes to have Republican support in doing so -- but he is going >>>>to >>>>move forward on health reform." >>>> >>>>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/07/AR2010020703003.html >>>> >>> A "White House official" who remains anonymous? How about a quote >>> from Barack Obama, not anonymous, from the very cite you list above? >>> >>> "I want to consult closely with our Republican colleagues," Obama >>> said. "What I want to do is to ask them to put their ideas on the >>> table. . . . I want to come back and have a large meeting, Republicans >>> and Democrats, to go through, systematically, all the best ideas that >>> are out there and move it forward." >>> >>> >>> Do you guys just not see these quotes, or just pass over them because >>> they don't fit your stance? >>> >>> This was almost at the top of the story, and the anonymous official's >>> quote, which only says that he's moving forward, was almost at the >>> bottom. >>> >>Bobby, if he is not willing to start over on this it dosent matter one bit >>what the Repubs have to offer! Obama just wants to look non-partisan when >>in >>reality he is all partisan all the time. Unless you start over, you >>cannot >>move forward. Period! >> > In the first place, "This is not starting over" came from an > anonymous person. Secondly, you certainly can move forward without > starting over. Think this one out. Find those areas where there is > some agreement and go from there. Now, if there is absolutely no > agreement anywhere, then find some. > > BAR wants this to be a game, but reasonable people shouldn't. > It is a game. And Obama is dealing. You mean find areas in the current bill where there is agreement? He could barely get the Dems to agree to it let alone the Repubs.
From: Jack Hollis on 11 Feb 2010 16:28 On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:14:42 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >You keep talking about Bush as a simpleton. But, he was a twice elected >governor of Texas and twice elected President of the US. If that is a >simpleton in your books then Obama is a stunning dunce. Besides there's objective data to show Bush to be of superior, to very superior, intelligence. It's highly unlikely that Obama is that smart.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 11 Feb 2010 16:31
On Feb 11, 11:21 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4...(a)4ax.com>, > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > >The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. Obama has a long > > >way to go before he can claim to be weaned off of the TelePrompter. > > > Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the repub > > congressmen, all off the cuff? > > In your dreams only. It was an absurd format. All Obama did was deny anything challenging, and the questioner had no capacity to reply to the denial. If this is the best Obama can do, he can't do much. I'd like to see him debate a Sarah Palin, or someone who would come back and challenge his denials. One question, one answer is a ridiculous format; certainly is in no sense an exchange of ideas. |