From: MNMikeW on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:03:05 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
>
>>But, keep calling me a idiot, simpleton or crazy. I've been around DC
>>long enough to know how it works.
> OK, you'r an idiot a simpleton and crazy, but most of all tiresome.
> Maybe its BECAUSE you've been around DC so long.
>
> BK

Sorry Bobby, Bert is right. This is all about the next election. With the
election of Brown, they know what they have will never pass. Hail Mary time.


From: Carbon on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:10:58 -0600, bknight wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. Obama has a long
>> way to go before he can claim to be weaned off of the TelePrompter.
>
> Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the repub congressmen,
> all off the cuff?

That's a touchy subject for the true believers. They appearing to be
ignoring the obvious with all their might.
From: Carbon on
On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:51:42 -0600, MNMikeW wrote:
> <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> news:eni8n5d2ni49tgp0j8pd0dc4p0jroki97j(a)4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:58:12 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>> In article <sof8n5drfaqjkerbbv1ubt2f5ts6ta5i8l(a)4ax.com>,
>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:21:44 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>>>> In article <nta8n5p2g17si7haj18qn7kif0vi0k4kre(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>> bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 10:04:37 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The TelePrompter "BS" hasn't been wiped off the table. Obama has
>>>>>>> a long way to go before he can claim to be weaned off of the
>>>>>>> TelePrompter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cripes Bert. Didn't you see the whipping he gave the repub
>>>>>> congressmen, all off the cuff?
>>>>>
>>>>> In your dreams only.
>>>>
>>>> Enough so that the Senators don't want to be embarrassed too. They
>>>> won't subject themselves to such a drubbing.
>>>
>>> In your dreams only.
>>
>> Bert! This has been widely publicized. He offered to meet with them
>> and they said no, not as a large group, just with a few of the
>> leaders. They obviously don't want a repeat of the representatives'
>> poor showing.
>
> And the only people saying it was a "drubbing" are left wing blogs.
> The meeting they want to have on the 25th is just as bogus. Obama has
> stated he has no plans on starting over on healthcare. So whatever
> proposals are presented by the Repubs, they will be rejected. The
> people want a "do-over" on this and so do most Repubs. Obama will not
> allow that so basically it comes down to nothing more than more Obama
> Kabuki theater.

Jesus. You guys say you've watched it. Are you all blind, or what?
From: John B. on
On Feb 11, 5:03 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <07u8n515ijcqcfmv4ao17a5bbusijjc...(a)4ax.com>,
> bkni...(a)conramp.net says...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:16:41 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > ><bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > >news:6fp8n51qh9jjlogikh7r51l72mn7ik89v2(a)4ax.com...
> > >> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 14:12:07 -0600, "MNMikeW" <MNMiik...(a)aol.com>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> In the first place, "This is not starting over" came from an
> > >> anonymous person.  Secondly, you certainly can move forward without
> > >> starting over.  Think this one out.  Find those areas where there is
> > >> some agreement and go from there.  Now, if there is absolutely no
> > >> agreement anywhere, then find some.
>
> > >> BAR wants this to be a game, but reasonable people shouldn't.
>
> > >It is a game. And Obama is dealing. You mean find areas in the current bill
> > >where there is agreement? He could barely get the Dems to agree to it let
> > >alone the Repubs.
>
> > Its too important to be called a game.  Now, lets see what you think
> > is Obama's bill.  He doesn't write bills.
>
> It is all about the next election cycle. It is all about screwing the
> other side. It is all about protecting the turf you have and expanding
> it.
>
> Why couldn't the Democrats pass the health care bill when they
> controlled the House, Senate and White House? It sure as hell wasn't
> because of the Republicans. The Republicans were in the minority in the
> House, Senate and couldn't get past the front gates to the White House.
>
> The Democrats, including Obama, screwed up big time on Health Care and
> now they are trying to score political points to look bi-partisan. They,
> Obama and the other Democrats, have no intention of letting the
> Republicans add, modify or remove anything from the Health Care bill.
>
> You call this too important to play games with, well Bobby, grow up.
> This is the big leagues of politics and everybody is looking at how to
> position themselves for their next election. Nothing matters more than
> getting elected again because seniority means power. Ask Charles Wrangle
> the tax cheat who runs the House Ways and Means committee. You can't ask
> John Murtha how important seniority is now but it got him his own
> personal airport.
>
> But, keep calling me a idiot, simpleton or crazy. I've been around DC
> long enough to know how it works.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Then you should know that it takes more than a majority to pass
legislation in the Senate. Both the health care bill and the climate
bill passed the House because all you need there is a simple majority.
You need 60 in the Senate, which is a ridiculous state of affairs (and
yes I thought that when the Republicans were in the majority).
From: dene on

<bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 13:31:23 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote:

>
> You're kidding. Biden wasted Palin in debate, and he's a
> lightweight. She's a joke that is riding a wave of simple minds.
>
> BK

In your dreams. Palin did just fine with Blabben.

-Greg