From: Ken Meltzer on
On Dec 12, 6:36 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:11:01 +0000, assimilate wrote:
> > On 11-Dec-2009, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
> >> Do you know what his family actually feels about all of this?
>
> > humiliated
>
> How could they not?

"Is knowledge knowable?" "If not, how do we know this?"
-Woody Allen
From: Carbon on
On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:43:53 -0800, Ken Meltzer wrote:
> On Dec 12, 6:36 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:11:01 +0000, assimilate wrote:
>>> On 11-Dec-2009, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do you know what his family actually feels about all of this?
>>
>>> humiliated
>>
>> How could they not?
>
> "Is knowledge knowable?" "If not, how do we know this?" -Woody Allen

Ok. At the same time, if someone walked up to you and smacked you in the
head with a baseball bat, I think imagining that you might be dizzy,
disoriented, have a headache, etc., would be reasonable.
From: dene on

"Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
news:AtmdnSsXlusGQ77WnZ2dnUVZ_jxi4p2d(a)supernews.com...
> dene wrote, On 12/12/09 12:22 PM:
> > "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
> > news:HK6dndbnFbM10L7WnZ2dnUVZ_sZi4p2d(a)supernews.com...
> >> dene wrote, On 12/12/09 12:17 AM:
> >>>> In my brief perusals of this group lately, I've been
> >>>> especially entertained by the sight of unrepentant
> >>>> bigots acting as though they can claim moral superiority
> >>>> over somebody. The very people who are the very worst
> >>>> that humanity has to offer think that they are better
> >>>> than Tiger Woods because (a) their skin is pink, and
> >>>> (b) Tiger has trouble keeping it in his pants. These
> >>>> are EXACTLY the folks who most need to look in the
> >>>> mirror before they start pointing at anyone else's
> >>>> failings -- and the last ones who will ever do it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sorry for the tangent. I just needed to vent.
> >>> It has nothing to do with skin color, opportunities, child prodigies,
or
> > if
> >>> your mother nursed you. He made vows. He broke
> > them....repeatedly....over
> >>> a long period of time. The majority of married people keep their
vows.
> > He
> >>> chose not to.....period.
> >> If you've never made bad decisions that hurt people you
> >> loved, just say so.
> >
> > Splinters and logs, Chris. I've kept my marriage vows.
>
> Good. How many millions have you thrown to poor kids?

How does a thousand a month grab you? It's a bigger percentage of my income
than his.

-Greg


From: assimilate on

On 12-Dec-2009, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote:

> What do you think you know? You know which people are telling the truth,
> and which are in it for the publicity for themselves?

Do you think it matters? One is telling the truth, that is all that matters
>
> >
> > > Do you know what his family actually feels about all of this?
> >
> > humiliated
>
> And you've had personal conversations with any of them to know this?
> From where does this knowledge stem?

Your standard, absolute certainty, is absurd. I, of course, can only imagine
and my imagination probably cannot probe the depths of their feelings.

--
bill-o
From: Alan Baker on
In article <7ojd4mF3ps1doU1(a)mid.individual.net>,
"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:

> "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
> news:AtmdnSsXlusGQ77WnZ2dnUVZ_jxi4p2d(a)supernews.com...
> > dene wrote, On 12/12/09 12:22 PM:
> > > "Chris Bellomy" <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote in message
> > > news:HK6dndbnFbM10L7WnZ2dnUVZ_sZi4p2d(a)supernews.com...
> > >> dene wrote, On 12/12/09 12:17 AM:
> > >>>> In my brief perusals of this group lately, I've been
> > >>>> especially entertained by the sight of unrepentant
> > >>>> bigots acting as though they can claim moral superiority
> > >>>> over somebody. The very people who are the very worst
> > >>>> that humanity has to offer think that they are better
> > >>>> than Tiger Woods because (a) their skin is pink, and
> > >>>> (b) Tiger has trouble keeping it in his pants. These
> > >>>> are EXACTLY the folks who most need to look in the
> > >>>> mirror before they start pointing at anyone else's
> > >>>> failings -- and the last ones who will ever do it.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sorry for the tangent. I just needed to vent.
> > >>> It has nothing to do with skin color, opportunities, child prodigies,
> or
> > > if
> > >>> your mother nursed you. He made vows. He broke
> > > them....repeatedly....over
> > >>> a long period of time. The majority of married people keep their
> vows.
> > > He
> > >>> chose not to.....period.
> > >> If you've never made bad decisions that hurt people you
> > >> loved, just say so.
> > >
> > > Splinters and logs, Chris. I've kept my marriage vows.
> >
> > Good. How many millions have you thrown to poor kids?
>
> How does a thousand a month grab you? It's a bigger percentage of my income
> than his.
>
> -Greg

I notice you don't actually say you've donated $1,000 per month...

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
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