From: Dene on
On Dec 9, 3:07 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article
> <545e9759-cd09-4a15-a6c8-b66a7e7bd...(a)a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
>
>
>
>
>  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > > > You don't know what kind of man he is, because you've never been close
> > > > > to being in his shoes.
>
> > > > Really... I do know...
>
> > > > he's a liar
> > > > he's an adulterer
>
> > > And do you know how man others are, or would be if they lived in his
> > > circumstances? Do you *know* that you wouldn't be?
>
> > So it's okay... as long as other people like him do it too???
>
> > > > he's given to throwing fits
>
> > > No. He's given to outbursts of temper.
>
> > Oh... that's much better...
>
> > > > he's a womanizer
>
> > > And you're not, or wouldn't be if you had the chance? Is this judgement,
> > > or just envy?
>
> > I'm not... and I have plenty of chances (I work at a University...
> > remember). But I *choose* not too. No envy. I had my wild time in my
> > 20s before marriage.
>
> Of course, Tiger would have said the same thing, so how do we know
> you're not lying?
>
>
>
> > > > As I said before this whole mess is a shame. I wish he hadn't done all
> > > > these things. I doubt anything good can come from it.
>
> > > Certainly you're not doing anything to help it.
>
> > He hasn't called... :)
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
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Dudley,

Read this whole exchange on GG where I can unfortunately see Baker's
posts. Notice throughout that he doesn't say anything. He just
knitpicks, trying to start an argument.

That's his classic M.O. Your decision whether you want to play along.

-Greg
From: Dene on
On Dec 9, 6:00 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> In article <lrj0i5t0186ar6hvo2e97n6j1tgndcu...(a)4ax.com>,
>  Loudon Briggs <lar...(a)bbz.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
> > >In article <4820i5lr0g5obn3gashlg15pq7antgc...(a)4ax.com>,
> > > Loudon Briggs <lar...(a)bbz.net> wrote:
>
> > >> Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
> > >> >> > > > > BTW - Ken was right all along.
>
> > >> >> > > > Sorry, but since none of us actually know the man, you can't
> > >> >> > > > actually
> > >> >> > > > say that.
>
> > >> >> > > I though I just did...
>
> > >> *******
> > >> >You think that it's OK, because Tiger Woods is a celebrity and who is it
> > >> >really hurting, but the fact remains that you don't know the man.
> > >> *******
>
> > >> I think we're getting to know him better every day!
>
> > >That you think that is the problem.
>
> > Alan... at the top of your message, it indicates you're partially
> > responding to something I posted. There is nothing else in your
> > message even closely associated with anything I said.
>
> > Careless editing like that has often set off some of those arguments
> > on this Group that NOBODY ever wins. Unfortunately, "no editing" is
> > even more prevalent.
>
> I'm sorry, but I don't understand your objection.
>
> The fact that you really think you're gaining much insight into Tiger
> Woods' character is the problem. You're getting a tiny, much distorted
> (through the glass of a scandal-hungry media) slice and you think that
> you know something about Tiger Woods.
>
> --
> Alan Baker
> Vancouver, British Columbia
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More of the same. Baker disputes but doesn't offer a cite or specific
opinion in return.

-Greg
From: dsc-ky on
On Dec 10, 4:50 pm, Dene <gdst...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Dec 9, 3:07 pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article
> > <545e9759-cd09-4a15-a6c8-b66a7e7bd...(a)a32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
>
> >  dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > > > > You don't know what kind of man he is, because you've never been close
> > > > > > to being in his shoes.
>
> > > > > Really... I do know...
>
> > > > > he's a liar
> > > > > he's an adulterer
>
> > > > And do you know how man others are, or would be if they lived in his
> > > > circumstances? Do you *know* that you wouldn't be?
>
> > > So it's okay... as long as other people like him do it too???
>
> > > > > he's given to throwing fits
>
> > > > No. He's given to outbursts of temper.
>
> > > Oh... that's much better...
>
> > > > > he's a womanizer
>
> > > > And you're not, or wouldn't be if you had the chance? Is this judgement,
> > > > or just envy?
>
> > > I'm not... and I have plenty of chances (I work at a University...
> > > remember). But I *choose* not too. No envy. I had my wild time in my
> > > 20s before marriage.
>
> > Of course, Tiger would have said the same thing, so how do we know
> > you're not lying?
>
> > > > > As I said before this whole mess is a shame. I wish he hadn't done all
> > > > > these things. I doubt anything good can come from it.
>
> > > > Certainly you're not doing anything to help it.
>
> > > He hasn't called... :)
>
> > --
> > Alan Baker
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Dudley,
>
> Read this whole exchange on GG where I can unfortunately see Baker's
> posts.  Notice throughout that he doesn't say anything.  He just
> knitpicks, trying to start an argument.
>
> That's his classic M.O.  Your decision whether you want to play along.
>
> -Greg

I don't mind playing with him. But I'll tire of it after a while and
move on... :)
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<8183adb0-21e5-48f1-8240-b1bc0379c65f(a)m25g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
dsc-ky <Dudley.Cornman(a)eku.edu> wrote:

> On Dec 10, 2:11�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article
> > <41a11d73-2d73-4e05-bfdd-840a50b82...(a)e27g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> >
> > �dsc-ky <Dudley.Corn...(a)eku.edu> wrote:
> > > On Dec 10, 12:14�am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote:
> > > > On �9-Dec-2009, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > You don't know what kind of man he is, because you've never been
> > > > > > > close
> > > > > > > to being in his shoes.
> >
> > > > > > Is a man to be judged by his actions or not?
> >
> > > > > Absolutely, but a man should be judged on more than the actions that
> > > > > happen to make it onto television. The view of television is biased
> > > > > and
> > > > > covers only a very small slice of someone's life.
> >
> > > That small part is mostly all we have been talking about...
> >
> > But you've been using it to make statements about his whole life...
> >
>
> I have? I thought I was talking mostly about him being a punk, liar,
> adulterer, etc. Is that his whole life? Things that pretty well relate
> directly to this scandal.

Him "being a punk" is about his whole life?

>
> >
> >
> > > > It seems to me that there is very little that could make up for what
> > > > he's
> > > > done to his family.
> >
> > > > --
> > > > bill-o
> >
> > > Shhs... you aren't allowed an opinion without first getting Baker's
> > > approval... :)
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > Not the least in the world. I wonder why it is that so many who want to
> > spout off suddenly think that anyone else discussing the merits of what
> > they say is somehow trying to prevent them from saying it?
>
> Because your feathers get really ruffled anytime anyone says anything
> negative about Tiger... whether is just an opinion, verifiable fact or
> whatever. :):):)

Nope. That's not it at all. Apparently, you don't know me very well,
either.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Alan Baker on
In article
<8a3b9544-2084-40a9-86d2-14711b77ee49(a)u18g2000pro.googlegroups.com>,
Dene <gdstrue(a)aol.com> wrote:

> On Dec 9, 6:00�pm, Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> > In article <lrj0i5t0186ar6hvo2e97n6j1tgndcu...(a)4ax.com>,
> > �Loudon Briggs <lar...(a)bbz.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >In article <4820i5lr0g5obn3gashlg15pq7antgc...(a)4ax.com>,
> > > > Loudon Briggs <lar...(a)bbz.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> Alan Baker <alangba...(a)telus.net> wrote:
> >
> > > >> >> > > > > BTW - Ken was right all along.
> >
> > > >> >> > > > Sorry, but since none of us actually know the man, you can't
> > > >> >> > > > actually
> > > >> >> > > > say that.
> >
> > > >> >> > > I though I just did...
> >
> > > >> *******
> > > >> >You think that it's OK, because Tiger Woods is a celebrity and who is
> > > >> >it
> > > >> >really hurting, but the fact remains that you don't know the man.
> > > >> *******
> >
> > > >> I think we're getting to know him better every day!
> >
> > > >That you think that is the problem.
> >
> > > Alan... at the top of your message, it indicates you're partially
> > > responding to something I posted. There is nothing else in your
> > > message even closely associated with anything I said.
> >
> > > Careless editing like that has often set off some of those arguments
> > > on this Group that NOBODY ever wins. Unfortunately, "no editing" is
> > > even more prevalent.
> >
> > I'm sorry, but I don't understand your objection.
> >
> > The fact that you really think you're gaining much insight into Tiger
> > Woods' character is the problem. You're getting a tiny, much distorted
> > (through the glass of a scandal-hungry media) slice and you think that
> > you know something about Tiger Woods.
> >
> > --
> > Alan Baker
> > Vancouver, British Columbia
> > <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>- Hide quoted
> > text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> More of the same. Baker disputes but doesn't offer a cite or specific
> opinion in return.
>
> -Greg

More of the same, Greg declares it cowardly to talk about people he has
killfiled, and then talks about me, whom he has in his killfile.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>