From: assimilate on 24 Dec 2009 00:05 On 22-Dec-2009, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote: > > > > When have I told anyone what to do with their money, that is their > > decision. > > When you decide what people need, you've made a judgment > about how they should (or shouldn't) spend their money. I have done neither -- bill-o
From: assimilate on 24 Dec 2009 00:07 On 22-Dec-2009, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> wrote: > You misread me. "Truly confiscatory taxation" and "reaches > too far down in brackets" are two separate ideas. The first > would involve a rate above, oh, 70% IMO. The second would > involve income below, oh, probably $1 million/year or so. > > In light of that, do you want to rephrase your question? so it is ok to confiscate from rich bastigages? is that the crux of it? -- bill-o
From: BAR on 24 Dec 2009 07:53 In article <7e6dnW5YWsBibK_WnZ2dnUVZ_uli4p2d(a)supernews.com>, ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc says... > > Jack Hollis wrote, On 12/23/09 6:30 PM: > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:36:15 -0600, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> > > wrote: > > > >> Jack Hollis wrote, On 12/23/09 3:29 PM: > >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:16:36 -0600, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I seriously do not even begin > >>>> to feel like the government tells me how to run my > >>>> life except for legal paternalism type stuff like that. > >>> Are you saying that you pay your taxes willingly? > >> Willingly, gratefully, happily. Others volunteer for > >> military service; I express my patriotism differently. > > > > I'm happy to pay taxes for some things, like the police and the > > military but not for others, like Social Security, Medicare, public > > schools (K-12 and colleges) and hundreds of other things the > > government have no business being involved in. > > Hey, I love peace and have to pay for war. That's just > how the deal works. Paying for war is in the US Constitution, the rest is left up to the several states.
From: BAR on 24 Dec 2009 07:55 In article <7e6dnWxYWsBfbK_WnZ2dnUVZ_uli4p2d(a)supernews.com>, ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc says... > > BAR wrote, On 12/23/09 4:18 PM: > > In article <FrWdnSLqwtHNEK_WnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d(a)supernews.com>, > > ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc says... > >> Jack Hollis wrote, On 12/23/09 3:29 PM: > >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 12:16:36 -0600, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I seriously do not even begin > >>>> to feel like the government tells me how to run my > >>>> life except for legal paternalism type stuff like that. > >>> Are you saying that you pay your taxes willingly? > >> Willingly, gratefully, happily. Others volunteer for > >> military service; I express my patriotism differently. > > > > Disgusting. > > You are starting to sound irredeemably bitter. Look, > whatever is wrong in your world, I'm not the guy who > broke it, ok? You and your kind started down a path to break my world over 100 years ago.
From: BAR on 24 Dec 2009 08:02
In article <7e6dnW9YWsB9bK_WnZ2dnUVZ_uli4p2d(a)supernews.com>, ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc says... > > Jack Hollis wrote, On 12/23/09 6:26 PM: > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 15:29:12 -0600, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> > > wrote: > > > >> Jack Hollis wrote, On 12/23/09 3:26 PM: > >>> On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 11:19:23 -0600, Chris Bellomy <ten.wohsdoog(a)sirhc> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I don't feel like government tells me how to run my life > >>>> at all, except for ignorant drug laws and the sort. > >>> Do drug laws stop you from using drugs? > >> Do taxes stop you from being rich? > > > > No, but they stopped me from being richer. Perhaps I could have > > retired at 50 instead of 55. > > If by "retired" you mean "permanently unemployed," sure! Even with all of the financial turmoil I am still on track to retire at 56. This is without a pension from anyone and retiring at the same standard of living I have now. My only fear is that my 401k, IRA, Roth IRA and other accounts are not nationalized. |