From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Apr 18, 7:39 am, Alan Campbell
<greenkee...(a)xxxalancampbell.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message
> <c66ecbb5-46fe-411f-8ab1-bb518758b...(a)q23g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>,
> Manco <musefan2...(a)gmail.com> writes>Of course golf course keepers use tons of chemicals to kill any weeds
> >on the greens and fairways.
>
> Thats a bit of a myth, most diseases and weeds etc can be controlled by
> cultural practices. Furthermore, amenity ground comes under much
> stricter control than agriculture and horticulture.
>
> --
> Alan Campbell

That's true. and some places do this, and at least in my experience,
you will always get a few weeds on the greens, which is a good sign,
IMHO. I wonder if they teach this in the greenskeepers programs in US
universities?

One thing I have also seen is the herbicides damage the soil
ecosystem, resulting in algal and fungal outbreaks attacking the
greens as a result, for which they use even more chemicals.

Had a neighbour who used a company called chemlawn to keep his lawn.
Beautiful green lawn. Sold the house and the new owner didn't keep up
the chemlawn. Totally dead lawn within a year, and needed to resod.
From: bknight on
On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 16:35:09 -0700 (PDT), Dinosaur_Sr
<frostback(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote:

>On Apr 17, 4:59�pm, "Fred Williams" <no...(a)nowhere.ca> wrote:
>> I've never seen weeds on greens, even on the
>> cheapest of golf courses. So does that mean
>> that the grass used for greens repels weeds
>> or is it because of the skills of green-keepers?
>>
>> The reason I ask, is because I would like to
>> make part of my lawn suitable for putting on.
>>
>> Would overseeding with green-type seed do, or
>> do I have to clear a patch down to the earth (no
>> big deal) and start afresh?
>>
>> What seed would you recommend for Southern
>> Ontario (Canada)?
>>
>> tia
>>
>> Fred
>
>Weeds on the greens means they don't use herbicides, and IMHO that's
>terrific. No way to keep weeds off the greens without
>herbicides...although I suppose you could get intense about pulling
>them.

Now THIS is something that you ACTUALLY know a great deal about. Why
not use your background to give some good advice to this guy? He
asked for a recommendation.

BK
From: JohnO on
On Apr 19, 9:30 am, "Fred Williams" <no...(a)nowhere.ca> wrote:
> JohnO wrote:
> > On Apr 18, 11:23 pm, "Fred Williams" <no...(a)nowhere.ca> wrote:
> >> brooklyn1 wrote:
> >>> On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 08:23:39 +1000, "David Hare-Scott"
> >>> <sec...(a)nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> Fred Williams wrote:
> >>>>> I've never seen weeds on greens, even on the
> >>>>> cheapest of golf courses. So does that mean
> >>>>> that the grass used for greens repels weeds
> >>>>> or is it because of the skills of green-keepers?
>
> >>>>> The reason I ask, is because I would like to
> >>>>> make part of my lawn suitable for putting on.
>
> >>>>> Would overseeding with green-type seed do, or
> >>>>> do I have to clear a patch down to the earth (no
> >>>>> big deal) and start afresh?
>
> >>>>> What seed would you recommend for Southern
> >>>>> Ontario (Canada)?
>
> >>>>> tia
>
> >>>>> Fred
>
> >>>> If you want a putting green be prepared for seeding, watering,
> >>>> fertilising, spraying, watering, cutting, rolling, aerating,
> >>>> cutting, mowing, watering, fertilising, seeding, paying, watering,
> >>>> fertilising, spraying, watering, cutting, aerating, cutting,
> >>>> paying, mowing, rolling, watering, fertilising, seeding, watering,
> >>>> fertilising, spraying, watering, cutting, aerating, cutting,
> >>>> mowing, watering, fertilising and paying.
>
> >>>> And you will get to putt on it too. Sounds like fun.
>
> >>>> David
>
> >>> Link from astroturf.com:
> >>>http://www.synlawn.com/artificial_grass_systems/golf_putting_greens_s....
>
> >> Thanks. I'll see if I can afford it.
>
> > Also see southwestgreens.com
>
> Thanks!
> Our local supplier:http://www.torontoputtinggreens.com/

Look forward to hearing how you get on with them.
From: Fred K. Gringioni on

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2636b1028b7caee4989e0d(a)news.giganews.com...
> In article <hqiggo$2t6$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> bobnospam(a)gmail.com says...
>>
>> Dinosaur_Sr wrote:
>>
>> > Had a neighbour who used a company called chemlawn to keep his lawn.
>> > Beautiful green lawn. Sold the house and the new owner didn't keep up
>> > the chemlawn. Totally dead lawn within a year, and needed to resod.
>>
>> He probably didn't water it either.
>
> Watering lawns is a waste of a valuable resource, the water.



Depends upon the location of the lawn.

Vegas, yes. Chicago, no.

From: Lelandite on

"Billy" <wildbilly(a)withouta.net> wrote in message
news:wildbilly-CA289F.13252518042010(a)c-61-68-245-199.per.connect.net.au...
> In article <tlems59i4s3vpircm0f1ujio8gkv9r5atf(a)4ax.com>,
> Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:47:43 -0700 (PDT), Manco
>> <musefan2009(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Of course golf course keepers use tons of chemicals to kill any weeds
>> >on the greens and fairways.
>>
>> And it often works.
>
> While it kills anything natural around it e.g. soil organisms, insects,
> natural plants, and leaves behind a residue of death (biocides).
> --
> - Billy

there's new products on the market and it's not quite the killer as you
describe above. Demand for new products that don't cause harm
to being green are in high demand and if that's what the people
will buy, it will/is be produced.

Not sure what I use but my home and yard attracts many birds of
severel species, it's a good thing I like worms though I do admitt the
nightcrawlers are kinda creepy (unless I'm fishing) my leaves on my
plants stay healthy until it's time for them to fall.

Read the package when you go shopping and you'll most likely find something
out there that will work for you and is not full poison. But then I'm not
looking for my yard to look like a golf course.

Donna
in WA zone8




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