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From: Frank Ketchum on 11 Mar 2010 19:00

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
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> In article <4b984349$0$4975$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>,
> nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com says...
>>
>> On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:00:45 -0500, BAR wrote:
>>
>> > I oppose any and all taxes.
>>
>> Who needs roads anyway?
>
> Again, you missed the point.

You sure don't expend much effort to explain your point so why wouldn't most
people miss it? Why not mention that taxes are only one way to pay for
things like roads? User fees are a much better system for many reasons not
the least of which requires those who use the product to fund it.

Saying "I oppose any and all taxes" is just as persuasive as someone saying
"I am in favor of any and all taxes".

How would you care to pay for the military for example? Defense after all
is an actual legitimate function of our government and requires funding.


From: Jack Hollis on 11 Mar 2010 19:48
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:33:53 -0700, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net>
wrote:

>As I said with the Republicans, I still say - a deficit budget is a
>tax on all of us. When spending goes up we pay for it.

A deficit is a deferred tax and Obama is going to put deferred
taxation to an unheard of level.
From: Howard Brazee on 11 Mar 2010 21:15
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:00:46 -0500, "Frank Ketchum"
<nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:

>Saying "I oppose any and all taxes" is just as persuasive as someone saying
>"I am in favor of any and all taxes".
>
>How would you care to pay for the military for example? Defense after all
>is an actual legitimate function of our government and requires funding.

I wonder what would happen if governments stopped controlling money.
We can't use gold all the time in the age of Pay Pal. I guess we
would be using letters of credit from Big Business.


I've heard people say that the only legitimate use of government is
for the military. I haven't heard them propose we tear down our
prisons though.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on 11 Mar 2010 21:17
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:48:38 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com>
wrote:

>>As I said with the Republicans, I still say - a deficit budget is a
>>tax on all of us. When spending goes up we pay for it.
>
>A deficit is a deferred tax and Obama is going to put deferred
>taxation to an unheard of level.

As have just about every administration. Which is the last
Republican administration that didn't do this?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Frank Ketchum on 11 Mar 2010 21:29

"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:00:46 -0500, "Frank Ketchum"
> <nospam(a)thanksanyway.fu> wrote:
>
>>Saying "I oppose any and all taxes" is just as persuasive as someone
>>saying
>>"I am in favor of any and all taxes".
>>
>>How would you care to pay for the military for example? Defense after all
>>is an actual legitimate function of our government and requires funding.
>
> I wonder what would happen if governments stopped controlling money.
> We can't use gold all the time in the age of Pay Pal. I guess we
> would be using letters of credit from Big Business.
>
>
> I've heard people say that the only legitimate use of government is
> for the military. I haven't heard them propose we tear down our
> prisons though.

There would be competing forms of currency not controlled by a central
authority and we would be better off. Hell we don't need to even go that
far, just use a currency that they can't print more of at any time like a
gold standard as you mentioned or a standard tied to any other commodity
(silver, wheat, crude oil) or multiple commodities.

Government has other legitimate functions. Administering a justice system
for example is a pretty important one. Basically government exists to
protect the liberty of the citizen. We get in trouble when we use it for
other ends.

It is a far cry from where we are today where government is simply the
mechanism to dish out whatever goodies people want regardless of the cost.



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