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From: BAR on 17 Apr 2010 14:07 In article <KOlyn.56118$Ht4.3946(a)newsfe20.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com says... > > > > I am surprised that an Ex-Pat Brit like you is lecturing us, in the USA, > > about unjust wars. I suppose the British Colonial Period is unfamiliar > > to you. Shouldn't you be berating your fellow countrymen for their ill > > conceived adventures and subjugation of the people of the world under > > the British boot for the sole purpose of economically plundering and > > enslaving the people conquered at the business end of a British musket? > > What exactly is the difference between "populist" > and "people" as in "of the people, for the people > and by the people" Populism is an us against them mentality, ideology, movement, where the us is the common folk and the them is the elites. Typically those who push populism the most are the part of the them and not the us. Populists are dividers and not uniters. The "of the people, by the people and for the people" is from the Gettysburg address and it makes not distinction between classes of people. But, you missed the clause before which reads "that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom." "The people" is a definition of the citizens of the country and does not make class distinctions. > If you mean demagoguery then you will find it in > Dems and Reps alike. If you mean an uneducated > electorate, then you have a point but is uneducated > worse than prejudiced, indoctrinated and > brainwashed? At least my ignorance can be informed, > but my biases can't. Isn't stressing math and science > a way to raise "tools" instead of well rounded, thinking > citizens? Why is the US the land of invention? Because the people, from all education and social levels, are free to think, explore and be rewarded for their individual efforts.
From: Carbon on 17 Apr 2010 14:30 On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:08:10 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > On Apr 17, 1:00 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > To learn science, you have to learn to think. Once you learn to think, > you have that ability, and can apply it anywhere. Humanities courses > stress reading something and "knowing" some interpretation. You are > literally not allowed to have your own interpretation. What this and > that means has already been determined. In science, nothing is set in > stone, everything is open for debate. All explanations are tentative. > If you can't think independently, and develop novel interpretations of > things, you can't be a scientist. "You are literally not allowed to have your own interpretation." If I didn't already know you were trolling, I'd think that either you went to an exceedingly bad University, or that you know nothing about the humanities, or both.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 18 Apr 2010 09:11
On Apr 17, 2:30 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:08:10 -0700, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > > On Apr 17, 1:00 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > To learn science, you have to learn to think. Once you learn to think, > > you have that ability, and can apply it anywhere. Humanities courses > > stress reading something and "knowing" some interpretation. You are > > literally not allowed to have your own interpretation. What this and > > that means has already been determined. In science, nothing is set in > > stone, everything is open for debate. All explanations are tentative. > > If you can't think independently, and develop novel interpretations of > > things, you can't be a scientist. > > "You are literally not allowed to have your own interpretation." > > If I didn't already know you were trolling, I'd think that either you > went to an exceedingly bad University, or that you know nothing about > the humanities, or both. Really? So if I present the view that Mussolini, Hitler and Mao were progressives as well as mainstram socialists is a fact, and I can back it up substantially, in their day, that's OK in humanities classes in the US? If you think that would go over OK, it is you who know nothing of education or the humanities. |