From: Jack Hollis on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 19:26:35 -0800 (PST), "John B."
<johnb505(a)> wrote:

>> you complain about one drop when entitlements represent the ocean, typica=
>> --
>> bill-o
>So, a trillion dollars is a "drop" nowadays. My, how far we've come.

Social Security and Medicare represent about $107 trillion in future
entitlements. So with that in mind, a trillion isn't so much.
From: Jack Hollis on
On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:12:49 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)>

>I agree with your first statement. Never said the 2nd statement. However,
>I think a significant portion of working, uninsured Americans can afford
>basic health insurance.

About 43% of the uninsured could afford insurance if they wanted it.
From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:58:00 -0500, BAR <screw(a)> wrote:

>> >> 2. Average life expectancy by country.
>> >
>> >What's more important, quality of life or length of life? I did more by
>> >the age of 30 than you've done in your entire life.
>> So how do we evaluate & measure various health programs on quality of
>> life?
>It is difficult, if not impossible to perform an objective study on
>quality of life.
>But, measuring quality of health care based upon how many years grandma
>and grandpa sit in front of the TV waiting for the kids to come by and
>visit doesn't seem right either.
>Living is existence. Existence is not living.

A very high percentage of U.S. health care costs are used to make
great grandpa and great grandma survive longer. But how do we
decide to spend that money on their grandchildren instead?

"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Jack Hollis on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 07:53:00 -0500, BAR <screw(a)> wrote:

>> I think anyone with experience would put the quality of life in many
>> European countries as at least as good as in the US.
>Why isn't it better?

From: Jack Hollis on
On Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:01:51 -0500, BAR <screw(a)> wrote:

>> Other than things like out and about rhyming with boot, Canada is very
>> very similar to the US in diet, in culture, standard of living, etc. Yet
>> Canadians have an average life expectancy several years greater than
>> Americans. What could possibly account for this startling difference?
>The cold winter preserves them better.

Two factors that effect average life span that differ between Canada
and the US is obesity and homicide rates. Obesity is the main cause
of the difference but homicides are a factor because most of the
victims tend to be young.

Again, life span is not a good indicator of the quality of health