From: assimilate on 25 Feb 2010 00:44 On 24-Feb-2010, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >>> perhaps, but the unemployment of the young due to the cost of hiring > >>> is a hard, verifyable fact. > >> > >> But much of your criticism centers on the alleged difficulty in firing > >> people. It has nothing to do with universal healthcare. > > > > did you see only half my reasoning, the half that doesn't agree with > > your ideology? > > You tried to support your argument with two unsubstantiated claims, one > of which was completely irrelevant. What do you expect? sorry that reality gets in the way of your understanding, but it seems to happen a lot in your case. -- bill-o
From: William Clark on 25 Feb 2010 07:54 In article <6Vnhn.8482$bx3.832(a)newsfe13.iad>, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote: > On 23-Feb-2010, William Clark <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote: > > > > The stats are bogus anyways, as are most politically based stats. The > > > costs stats don' t include the cost of the system and the cost of > > > governance associated with that, only the cost of the "care". The life > > > expectancy stats don't include everybody in places like France, and > > > don't include the fact that the US is a gathering place of people from > > > around the world, whereas France is for French only, and not too many > > > other people want to go there. Funny that an alien in the US is > > > failing to account for this. I wonder though, if Americans treated > > > Mexicans the way the French treat Algerians, or the way the Italians > > > treat North Africans, would the outcry not be deafening? > > > > What total apologist BS. Are you nuts? > > I'm sorry but one thing is accurate. The French treat Arab & African > immigrants much worse than we do Mexican immigrants (or most other > immigrants). Socially America has changed since the 50s, France not as much. Which has, what, to do with life expectancy? In fact, if the French treat their immigrants so much worse than we do, shouldn't we therefore expect life expectancy in France to be lower than the US?
From: William Clark on 25 Feb 2010 07:55 In article <MPG.25ef8b878a0a0d22989c59(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <clark-26AD1C.09041624022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > In article <MPG.25eee5eba382fbec989c4d(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <clark-AE7862.09022523022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > > > > > Not much market? Are you serious? Have you ever set foot in a major > > > > > city? Have you ever used public transportation in NY or DC or > > > > > Chicago? > > > > > > > > 30,000 people commute into Columbus every day down SR 315. I am one of > > > > them. Every car on the road has but one occupant, and there is no > > > > public > > > > transport alternative. That is just stupid. > > > > > > What are you doing about it other than making statements? Have you > > > gotten a group of people together to commit to purchasing bus passes for > > > 10 years to fund the bus route? > > > > > > Talk is easy, action is hard. We know what you do best. > > > > http://tiny.cc/pQdJ9 > > Not surprisingly I saw no references to William Clark or any other forms > of your name. > > As usual your efforts go no further than providing a URL to someone > else's work. I do my work behind the scenes. Providing a URL is all the effort your nonsense merits. Sorry.
From: BAR on 25 Feb 2010 08:00 In article <clark-84D2A4.07552125022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > In article <MPG.25ef8b878a0a0d22989c59(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <clark-26AD1C.09041624022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > In article <MPG.25eee5eba382fbec989c4d(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <clark-AE7862.09022523022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > > > > > > > Not much market? Are you serious? Have you ever set foot in a major > > > > > > city? Have you ever used public transportation in NY or DC or > > > > > > Chicago? > > > > > > > > > > 30,000 people commute into Columbus every day down SR 315. I am one of > > > > > them. Every car on the road has but one occupant, and there is no > > > > > public > > > > > transport alternative. That is just stupid. > > > > > > > > What are you doing about it other than making statements? Have you > > > > gotten a group of people together to commit to purchasing bus passes for > > > > 10 years to fund the bus route? > > > > > > > > Talk is easy, action is hard. We know what you do best. > > > > > > http://tiny.cc/pQdJ9 > > > > Not surprisingly I saw no references to William Clark or any other forms > > of your name. > > > > As usual your efforts go no further than providing a URL to someone > > else's work. > > I do my work behind the scenes. > > Providing a URL is all the effort your nonsense merits. Sorry. Does taking credit for the work of others fall under unethical conduct or is it just a lie?
From: John B. on 25 Feb 2010 09:11
On Feb 25, 12:42 am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote: > On 24-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > >>>> So why do people keep bring up cost, if that isn't the objection? > > > >>> It is a red herring obviously. > > > >> Oh, of course. How can efficiency possibly matter? > > > > It does matter, but efficiency and gov't are opposites. > > > Really? Are you sure you're not being biased? > > BAR has related his gov't working experience, which matches my mother's: > waste, fraud, abuse and dead-weight employees. > > -- > bill-o It doesn't match my government experience at all. I saw no waste or fraud. I saw some employees who didn't carry their weight, but I've seen those in the private sector too. |