From: BAR on 25 Feb 2010 17:38 In article <clark-E52FC8.17330925022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > In article <MPG.25f0c2002c29cf9e989c63(a)news.giganews.com>, > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <clark-B0A746.09511025022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > > > > Hint: if you don't make them, no one will embarrass you in > > > > > > > > > public. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like posting to USENET at the turn from your iPhone? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like lying about the "proof" that Dino "provided" of his materials > > > > > > > science "publications"? > > > > > > > > > > > > All I did was make reference to terms. You as usual assumed facts not > > > > > > in > > > > > > evidence. > > > > > > > > > > No, you claimed he had provided you with "proof", when he had not. > > > > > Don't > > > > > try to change the script after the fact. > > > > > > > > Billy, you are lying. I never said he had provided me with proof. Check > > > > the record and show me the posting. > > > > > > Ah, back to the old "you find the cite" tactic. It had to come out > > > sooner or later. > > > > You are too funny, I suppose you want me to pass judgment on myself and > > escort myself to jail too. > > > > Your allegation, you provide the evidence. > > No, you claimed he provided "proof", you back it up. You've changed from he provided proof to me to he provided proof.
From: John B. on 25 Feb 2010 17:56 On Feb 25, 5:12 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <d0af5a70-8176-4c4d-b74d- > ee5f35a12...(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 12:42 am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote: > > > On 24-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > >>>> So why do people keep bring up cost, if that isn't the objection? > > > > > >>> It is a red herring obviously. > > > > > >> Oh, of course. How can efficiency possibly matter? > > > > > > It does matter, but efficiency and gov't are opposites. > > > > > Really? Are you sure you're not being biased? > > > > BAR has related his gov't working experience, which matches my mother's: > > > waste, fraud, abuse and dead-weight employees. > > > > -- > > > bill-o > > > It doesn't match my government experience at all. I saw no waste or > > fraud. I saw some employees who didn't carry their weight, but I've > > seen those in the private sector too. > > You pray at the alter of government.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I most certainly do not. And it's altar, not alter.
From: John B. on 25 Feb 2010 17:57 On Feb 25, 5:14 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <6418d41f-7cb5-4c29-a4d0-57c7334ec205 > @u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 12:42 am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote: > > > On 24-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > >>> It does matter, but efficiency and gov't are opposites. > > > > > >>Really? Are you sure you're not being biased? > > > > > > I suppose it depends on whether the government is doing what I think > > > > > it should be doing or what you think it should be doing. > > > > > It is ridiculous to claim that government and efficiency are opposites. > > > > It may often be true. It may even mostly be true. But it's not always > > > > true. Is it? > > > > If all you have is that, then you haven't got much. > > > > -- > > > bill-o > > > And what do you have, other than the anecdotal experience of your > > mother? > > I have my real life experience working in a Democrat and Republican > administrations. Both were fraught with waste, fraud and abuse. > > How many people did you see get fired over your entire government > career?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Exactly what waste, fraud and abuse did you witness?
From: John B. on 25 Feb 2010 17:59 On Feb 25, 5:17 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <e3ee612a-bb96-4e34-beec- > f86b2e143...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > The government is answerable to the people. Insurance companies are > > answerable to their stockholders. Profit is their No. 1 motivation. > > They profit by taking money from you, giving as little of it as > > possible to your doctor, and keeping the rest. Under the current > > regime, they can raise their premiums however much they want and > > whenever they want and if you can't afford the increase, well, too bad > > for you. You can cancel your policy and try to get a better deal from > > another company, but if you have a pre-existing condition, well, too > > bad for you again. How can anybody defend this? > > Where do you think pension funds are invested? Some are invested in government securities, but your question is irrelevant.
From: BAR on 25 Feb 2010 18:04
In article <5cdc5d4f-6976-4bcd-9964-618c3e94c494 @f8g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Feb 25, 5:12�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <d0af5a70-8176-4c4d-b74d- > > ee5f35a12...(a)o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 12:42 am, assimil...(a)borg.org wrote: > > > > On 24-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > > > >>>> So why do people keep bring up cost, if that isn't the objection? > > > > > > > >>> It is a red herring obviously. > > > > > > > >> Oh, of course. How can efficiency possibly matter? > > > > > > > > It does matter, but efficiency and gov't are opposites. > > > > > > > Really? Are you sure you're not being biased? > > > > > > BAR has related his gov't working experience, which matches my mother's: > > > > waste, fraud, abuse and dead-weight employees. > > > > > > -- > > > > bill-o > > > > > It doesn't match my government experience at all. I saw no waste or > > > fraud. I saw some employees who didn't carry their weight, but I've > > > seen those in the private sector too. > > > > You pray at the alter of government.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > I most certainly do not. And it's altar, not alter. See, I told you you pray at the altar of government! |