From: John B. on
On Feb 25, 6:06 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> In article <2079191f-d484-4def-b1ef-
> a83201ac6...(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 25, 5:17 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <e3ee612a-bb96-4e34-beec-
> > > f86b2e143...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says....
>
> > > > The government is answerable to the people. Insurance companies are
> > > > answerable to their stockholders. Profit is their No. 1 motivation.
> > > > They profit by taking money from you,  giving as little of it as
> > > > possible to your doctor, and keeping the rest. Under the current
> > > > regime, they can raise their premiums however much they want and
> > > > whenever they want and if you can't afford the increase, well, too bad
> > > > for you. You can cancel your policy and try to get a better deal from
> > > > another company, but if you have a pre-existing condition, well, too
> > > > bad for you again. How can anybody defend this?
>
> > > Where do you think pension funds are invested?
>
> > Some are invested in government securities, but your question is
> > irrelevant.
>
> Most are invested in private business, like the evil insurance
> companies.

Most are invested in mutual funds. Individual stock purchases by big
pension funds are not common.
From: John B. on
On Feb 25, 7:29 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:11:11 -0800 (PST), "John B."
>
> <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >It doesn't match my government experience at all. I saw no waste or
> >fraud. I saw some employees who didn't carry their weight, but I've
> >seen those in the private sector too.
>
> Are private security guards more efficient than regular military in
> war zones?    Who would you rather spend your money on in that case?

Unfortunately, anything having to do with defense is exempt from the
government-haters' ire. Which is very convenient for them, because
there is probably more waste, fraud and abuse at DoD than at all other
govt. agencies combined.

>
> --
> "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
> than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
> to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
>
> - James Madison

From: Jack Hollis on
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:08:08 -0800 (PST), "John B."
<johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>>
>> The 43% were individuals or familiy units that had enough disposable
>> income (2.5 times the poverty level) to buy insurance but didn't. =A0You
>> also have to remember that around another 20% of the uninsured are
>> illegal aliens. =A0Then there are people who actually qualify for
>> Medicaid or their kids qualify for SCHIP but have not applied.
>>
>> In then end there are about 12 to 15 million people in the US who want
>> insurance but can't afford to buy it and don't qualify for any
>> government program. =A0Overall, you're talking about 5% of the
>> polulation. =A0
>>
>> http://www.epionline.org/studies/oneill_06-2009.pdf
>
>It's awfully subjective to say that people at 2.5 times the poverty
>level have enough disposable income to pay for health insurance. That
>kind of depends on how much the insurance is going to cost them,
>doesn't it?

There are many people below the 2.5 level who do have health
insurance, so the authors used that level as a cutoff and found that
43% of the uninsured have incomes at or above 2.5 times the poverty
level. Perhaps not 100% of those people are voluntarily uninsured,
but you can also assume that there are people below the 2.5 level who
are voluntarily uninsured.
From: BAR on
In article <c8ce8bc3-7599-4d54-ade6-
f17dbbd6d9dc(a)l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
>
> On Feb 25, 6:06�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > In article <2079191f-d484-4def-b1ef-
> > a83201ac6...(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Feb 25, 5:17�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > > In article <e3ee612a-bb96-4e34-beec-
> > > > f86b2e143...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > > > > The government is answerable to the people. Insurance companies are
> > > > > answerable to their stockholders. Profit is their No. 1 motivation.
> > > > > They profit by taking money from you, �giving as little of it as
> > > > > possible to your doctor, and keeping the rest. Under the current
> > > > > regime, they can raise their premiums however much they want and
> > > > > whenever they want and if you can't afford the increase, well, too bad
> > > > > for you. You can cancel your policy and try to get a better deal from
> > > > > another company, but if you have a pre-existing condition, well, too
> > > > > bad for you again. How can anybody defend this?
> >
> > > > Where do you think pension funds are invested?
> >
> > > Some are invested in government securities, but your question is
> > > irrelevant.
> >
> > Most are invested in private business, like the evil insurance
> > companies.
>
> Most are invested in mutual funds. Individual stock purchases by big
> pension funds are not common.

What do you think mutual funds invent in? Tiddlywinks?


From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.25f0c5b644ffdd04989c64(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <clark-E95760.17321925022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.25f0c17ced1b8caa989c62(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <clark-5CC1DE.09503025022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Talk is easy, action is hard. We know what you do best.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > http://tiny.cc/pQdJ9
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Not surprisingly I saw no references to William Clark or any
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > forms
> > > > > > > of your name.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As usual your efforts go no further than providing a URL to
> > > > > > > someone
> > > > > > > else's work.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I do my work behind the scenes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Providing a URL is all the effort your nonsense merits. Sorry.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does taking credit for the work of others fall under unethical
> > > > > conduct
> > > > > or is it just a lie?
> > > >
> > > > You understand as little about the rules of attribution as you do about
> > > > AGW or anything else.
> > >
> > > Just as I thought. Your total involvement is cutting and pasting a URL.
> >
> > As I said, it is all your contribution warranted. Provide some content
> > and you'll get a considered response.
>
> Sorry, I am not interested in begging you for information.

Indeed, as we all knew, you don't actually have any. At least you have
"proved" something this time.