From: John B. on 25 Feb 2010 20:02 On Feb 25, 6:06 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <2079191f-d484-4def-b1ef- > a83201ac6...(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 5:17 pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > In article <e3ee612a-bb96-4e34-beec- > > > f86b2e143...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says.... > > > > > The government is answerable to the people. Insurance companies are > > > > answerable to their stockholders. Profit is their No. 1 motivation. > > > > They profit by taking money from you, giving as little of it as > > > > possible to your doctor, and keeping the rest. Under the current > > > > regime, they can raise their premiums however much they want and > > > > whenever they want and if you can't afford the increase, well, too bad > > > > for you. You can cancel your policy and try to get a better deal from > > > > another company, but if you have a pre-existing condition, well, too > > > > bad for you again. How can anybody defend this? > > > > Where do you think pension funds are invested? > > > Some are invested in government securities, but your question is > > irrelevant. > > Most are invested in private business, like the evil insurance > companies. Most are invested in mutual funds. Individual stock purchases by big pension funds are not common.
From: John B. on 25 Feb 2010 20:06 On Feb 25, 7:29 pm, Howard Brazee <how...(a)brazee.net> wrote: > On Thu, 25 Feb 2010 06:11:11 -0800 (PST), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >It doesn't match my government experience at all. I saw no waste or > >fraud. I saw some employees who didn't carry their weight, but I've > >seen those in the private sector too. > > Are private security guards more efficient than regular military in > war zones? Who would you rather spend your money on in that case? Unfortunately, anything having to do with defense is exempt from the government-haters' ire. Which is very convenient for them, because there is probably more waste, fraud and abuse at DoD than at all other govt. agencies combined. > > -- > "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, > than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace > to the legislature, and not to the executive department." > > - James Madison
From: Jack Hollis on 25 Feb 2010 20:08 On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:08:08 -0800 (PST), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> The 43% were individuals or familiy units that had enough disposable >> income (2.5 times the poverty level) to buy insurance but didn't. =A0You >> also have to remember that around another 20% of the uninsured are >> illegal aliens. =A0Then there are people who actually qualify for >> Medicaid or their kids qualify for SCHIP but have not applied. >> >> In then end there are about 12 to 15 million people in the US who want >> insurance but can't afford to buy it and don't qualify for any >> government program. =A0Overall, you're talking about 5% of the >> polulation. =A0 >> >> http://www.epionline.org/studies/oneill_06-2009.pdf > >It's awfully subjective to say that people at 2.5 times the poverty >level have enough disposable income to pay for health insurance. That >kind of depends on how much the insurance is going to cost them, >doesn't it? There are many people below the 2.5 level who do have health insurance, so the authors used that level as a cutoff and found that 43% of the uninsured have incomes at or above 2.5 times the poverty level. Perhaps not 100% of those people are voluntarily uninsured, but you can also assume that there are people below the 2.5 level who are voluntarily uninsured.
From: BAR on 25 Feb 2010 20:38 In article <c8ce8bc3-7599-4d54-ade6- f17dbbd6d9dc(a)l19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Feb 25, 6:06�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <2079191f-d484-4def-b1ef- > > a83201ac6...(a)e7g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 25, 5:17�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > In article <e3ee612a-bb96-4e34-beec- > > > > f86b2e143...(a)k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > The government is answerable to the people. Insurance companies are > > > > > answerable to their stockholders. Profit is their No. 1 motivation. > > > > > They profit by taking money from you, �giving as little of it as > > > > > possible to your doctor, and keeping the rest. Under the current > > > > > regime, they can raise their premiums however much they want and > > > > > whenever they want and if you can't afford the increase, well, too bad > > > > > for you. You can cancel your policy and try to get a better deal from > > > > > another company, but if you have a pre-existing condition, well, too > > > > > bad for you again. How can anybody defend this? > > > > > > Where do you think pension funds are invested? > > > > > Some are invested in government securities, but your question is > > > irrelevant. > > > > Most are invested in private business, like the evil insurance > > companies. > > Most are invested in mutual funds. Individual stock purchases by big > pension funds are not common. What do you think mutual funds invent in? Tiddlywinks?
From: William Clark on 25 Feb 2010 21:27
In article <MPG.25f0c5b644ffdd04989c64(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <clark-E95760.17321925022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > In article <MPG.25f0c17ced1b8caa989c62(a)news.giganews.com>, > > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > In article <clark-5CC1DE.09503025022010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk is easy, action is hard. We know what you do best. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://tiny.cc/pQdJ9 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not surprisingly I saw no references to William Clark or any > > > > > > > other > > > > > > > forms > > > > > > > of your name. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > As usual your efforts go no further than providing a URL to > > > > > > > someone > > > > > > > else's work. > > > > > > > > > > > > I do my work behind the scenes. > > > > > > > > > > > > Providing a URL is all the effort your nonsense merits. Sorry. > > > > > > > > > > Does taking credit for the work of others fall under unethical > > > > > conduct > > > > > or is it just a lie? > > > > > > > > You understand as little about the rules of attribution as you do about > > > > AGW or anything else. > > > > > > Just as I thought. Your total involvement is cutting and pasting a URL. > > > > As I said, it is all your contribution warranted. Provide some content > > and you'll get a considered response. > > Sorry, I am not interested in begging you for information. Indeed, as we all knew, you don't actually have any. At least you have "proved" something this time. |