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From: Dinosaur_Sr on 28 Feb 2010 11:34 On Feb 21, 6:17 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:27:12 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > > On Feb 18, 6:16 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000, assimilate wrote: > >>> On 17-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > >>>>>> systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday > >>>>>> event. > > >>>>> Stop whining. > > >>>> I should just allow myself to be raped like all you ideologues, > >>>> huh? > > >>> Better that than I get raped by your Universal Healthcare. > > >> Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare that > >> has higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. Go > >> ahead, we'll wait. > > > The govt dictates costs and service levels in those countries. In the > > US people can choose from a free market. > > In a free market there would be competition and therefore prices at > least somewhat in line with the cost of production. I hope you're not > going to try to argue that either is the case with big healthcare in the > US. Not me anyways. Health care is over regulated, thus you have no competition. Allow businesses to compete nationally and you would have competition.
From: John B. on 28 Feb 2010 13:26 On Feb 28, 11:33 am, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > On Feb 27, 2:03 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > And nobody, repeat NOBODY, has proposed "govt. > > control of health care." > > That's the spin now. If it's true, then why do they want to spend a > trillion dollars of working people's money? It's not spin, it's a fact.
From: Carbon on 28 Feb 2010 14:26 On Sun, 28 Feb 2010 08:34:23 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > On Feb 21, 6:17 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:27:12 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: >>> On Feb 18, 6:16 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Please find any country on the planet with universal healthcare >>>> that has higher per capita healthcare costs than the United States. >>>> Go ahead, we'll wait. >>> >>> The govt dictates costs and service levels in those countries. In >>> the US people can choose from a free market. >> >> In a free market there would be competition and therefore prices at >> least somewhat in line with the cost of production. I hope you're not >> going to try to argue that either is the case with big healthcare in >> the US. > > Not me anyways. Health care is over regulated, thus you have no > competition. Allow businesses to compete nationally and you would have > competition. With respect to its exemption from antitrust oversight, big healthcare in the US is grossly under-regulated. Ever curious as to how you get hit with 1000% markups when you go to the hospital? Well, look no further.
From: Jack Hollis on 28 Feb 2010 16:06 On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:37:10 -0800 (PST), "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Health insurance is already one of the most regulated businesses in >> the US. =A0What the US needs is less government interference with the >> free market, not more. > >Health insurance is heavily regulated in some states and lightly >regulated in others. What the industry needs is a single regulatory >regime for all companies. And that, by the way, is exactly what the >insurance industry wants. The insurance industry would be very happy to get out from under having to comply with 50 different sets of regulations. The biggest mistake that the regulators made is mandating coverage. In some states, it's impossible to buy cheap insurance. In NY you have to have coverage for acupuncture, massage therapy and coverage if you have an autistic child. So if someone loses their job and wants to go down to coverage for major medical only with a large deductible, they can't do it. It would be a lot better if people were allowed to buy what coverage they want.
From: John B. on 28 Feb 2010 18:32
On Feb 28, 4:06 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Sat, 27 Feb 2010 18:37:10 -0800 (PST), "John B." > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Health insurance is already one of the most regulated businesses in > >> the US. =A0What the US needs is less government interference with the > >> free market, not more. > > >Health insurance is heavily regulated in some states and lightly > >regulated in others. What the industry needs is a single regulatory > >regime for all companies. And that, by the way, is exactly what the > >insurance industry wants. > > The insurance industry would be very happy to get out from under > having to comply with 50 different sets of regulations. > > The biggest mistake that the regulators made is mandating coverage. In > some states, it's impossible to buy cheap insurance. In NY you have > to have coverage for acupuncture, massage therapy and coverage if you > have an autistic child. So if someone loses their job and wants to go > down to coverage for major medical only with a large deductible, they > can't do it. > > It would be a lot better if people were allowed to buy what coverage > they want. Agreed, but it works both ways. If someone loses their job and needs to buy a private insurance policy, insurance cos. shouldn't be allowed to turn them down because of the state of their health. |