From: Howard Brazee on
On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:26:02 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>Everyone should pay for the services they receive. If you don't pay you
>should go to jail for stealing.
>
>If someone walked into your house and grabbed your wife's jewelry and
>your computer and other valuables so that they could eat would you call
>the police? Would you just let them steal from you?

So is your idea of Health Reform to turn people away at hospitals and
ambulances until they show proof of insurance?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: BAR on
In article <jv0po5tpu9o8csea3brsi83lug8gumasiu(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:47:03 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >In article <lgqoo5plbuimmmsfl95n852l6kfcg2vik7(a)4ax.com>,
> >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> >>
> >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:26:02 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
>
> >> >
> >> >If someone walked into your house and grabbed your wife's jewelry and
> >> >your computer and other valuables so that they could eat would you call
> >> >the police? Would you just let them steal from you?
> >> >
> >> Bert, you really need to do some studying on analogies. This one was
> >> so far off it isn't even funny.....even for you.
> >
> >Stealing is stealing. When you got to a place of business and you have
> >have no intention of paying for the services you receive you are
> >stealing.
> >
> >
> Your analogy was idiotic. Period.

People receiving free health care are stealing from others.



From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:38:34 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

>
>They have them now. Whenever I have gone to the emergency room I have
>been asked about payment and insurance. They want to see my credit card
>and my health insurance card.

Good thing it wasn't your kid being taken from school while they were
looking for you.

Except if they don't get your card, they treat anyway.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: Howard Brazee on
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:51:15 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote:

>getting insurance after you get sick is not buying insurance, it is getting
>someone to pay for your illness.


Being denied insurance because you were treated for acne as a child
isn't because you're paying someone for your illness.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison
From: BAR on
In article <hk1qo5lfli6teo6vljqjeecjvaka9j6vi0(a)4ax.com>,
bknight(a)conramp.net says...
>
> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:54:58 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> >news:jv0po5tpu9o8csea3brsi83lug8gumasiu(a)4ax.com...
> >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:47:03 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >In article <lgqoo5plbuimmmsfl95n852l6kfcg2vik7(a)4ax.com>,
> >> >bknight(a)conramp.net says...
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:26:02 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >If someone walked into your house and grabbed your wife's jewelry and
> >> >> >your computer and other valuables so that they could eat would you
> >call
> >> >> >the police? Would you just let them steal from you?
> >> >> >
> >> >> Bert, you really need to do some studying on analogies. This one was
> >> >> so far off it isn't even funny.....even for you.
> >> >
> >> >Stealing is stealing. When you got to a place of business and you have
> >> >have no intention of paying for the services you receive you are
> >> >stealing.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> Your analogy was idiotic. Period.
> >>
> >> BK
> >
> >Specify the idiocy, Bobby. Bert's analogy seems dead on. You know as well
> >as I do that there are plenty of unisured people out there who can afford
> >health insurance. They refuse to buy because it isn't a priority. When
> >they utilize services and don't pay for them, is this not stealing?
> >
> >
> >-Greg
> >
> I don't question that. Bert's analogy is personal theft, where there
> is but one victim that has to bear the full brunt. Hyperbole like
> this, to bolster an ideology, is idiotic.

Group theft is ok? If I rob a room full of people then everything is ok.