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From: William Clark on 2 Mar 2010 08:18 In article <hk1qo5lfli6teo6vljqjeecjvaka9j6vi0(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 22:54:58 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> > wrote: > > > > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message > >news:jv0po5tpu9o8csea3brsi83lug8gumasiu(a)4ax.com... > >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:47:03 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > >> >In article <lgqoo5plbuimmmsfl95n852l6kfcg2vik7(a)4ax.com>, > >> >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >> >> > >> >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:26:02 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > >> > >> >> > > >> >> >If someone walked into your house and grabbed your wife's jewelry and > >> >> >your computer and other valuables so that they could eat would you > >call > >> >> >the police? Would you just let them steal from you? > >> >> > > >> >> Bert, you really need to do some studying on analogies. This one was > >> >> so far off it isn't even funny.....even for you. > >> > > >> >Stealing is stealing. When you got to a place of business and you have > >> >have no intention of paying for the services you receive you are > >> >stealing. > >> > > >> > > >> Your analogy was idiotic. Period. > >> > >> BK > > > >Specify the idiocy, Bobby. Bert's analogy seems dead on. You know as well > >as I do that there are plenty of unisured people out there who can afford > >health insurance. They refuse to buy because it isn't a priority. When > >they utilize services and don't pay for them, is this not stealing? > > > > > >-Greg > > > I don't question that. Bert's analogy is personal theft, where there > is but one victim that has to bear the full brunt. Hyperbole like > this, to bolster an ideology, is idiotic. > > BK Bertie's "analogy" is based on choosing to steal - illness and injury are not optional in the vast majority of cases. Get it now?
From: BAR on 2 Mar 2010 08:17 In article <p42qo5h3t12q7nmife2428g4brj29k40g1(a)4ax.com>, howard(a)brazee.net says... > > On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:38:34 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > >They have them now. Whenever I have gone to the emergency room I have > >been asked about payment and insurance. They want to see my credit card > >and my health insurance card. > > Good thing it wasn't your kid being taken from school while they were > looking for you. > > Except if they don't get your card, they treat anyway. Howard, you need to drink another cup of coffee. I was speaking about myself and what I experienced. But, like a true liberal you had to build a strawman into your response and put that strawman up as the general rule.
From: William Clark on 2 Mar 2010 08:21 In article <MPG.25f6d05f8f9c1120989c7e(a)news.giganews.com>, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <446ae5dd-e058-41c8-ac72-a73bdcd69e02 > @k17g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > > > On Mar 1, 8:32�pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 15:32:47 -0800 (PST), "John B." > > > > > > <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Which company wants to be the last health care insurance company in > > > >> California? If you are the last one you will effectively be > > > >> nationalized > > > >> and you will be required to provide insurance for 12% of the US > > > >> population at whatever rates the government decides and also to > > > >> provide > > > >> insurance for free to however many illegal aliens are in California at > > > >> the time. > > > > > > >How many are there now? Two? In most insurance markets, there are only > > > >one or two carriers. > > > > > > Totally inacurate. �New York State has dozens of health insurance > > > providers. > > > > I said "most" markets. Read this from the AMA: > > > > http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/news/news/health-insurance-competition.shtml > > The AMA does not represent a majority of the MDs within the USA. They > can be classified as a fringe group. Why are you quoting from a fringe > group? It has the same percentage of physicians as members as the GoP has adherents in the electorate. The GoP is, therefore, a "fringe group", according to you. Glad you finally acknowledge it.
From: bknight on 2 Mar 2010 08:38 On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:42:55 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >In article <561po5pcb1u5dh3n5umftu1nsiqti5fh07(a)4ax.com>, >bknight(a)conramp.net says... >> >> On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:51:15 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote: >> >> > >> >On 1-Mar-2010, bknight(a)conramp.net wrote: >> > >> >> This post has nothing to do with anything but how insurance companies >> >> would respond to those with pre-existing illnesses that leave >> >> WellPoint/Anthem. That's not luck of the draw, it borders on >> >> coercion. >> > >> >getting insurance after you get sick is not buying insurance, it is getting >> >someone to pay for your illness. >> >> A rare double Non Sequitur from you. Do you actually think that those >> who might not have the wherewithal to continue with WellPoint/Anthem >> want to make a change? They don't, but could be forced to do so. A >> family who is paying $500 a month, will now have to pay $700, or go >> without, if there are pre existing conditions. That's a pretty hefty >> increase. >> >> Its foolishness to even suggest that these people would be looking >> for someone to pay for their illnesses. > >The individual has the power to change the system. However, as a lefty >you wouldn't understand that nor do you want that. > As a centrist, and not a bubble-headed ideologue on either side, I KNOW that an individual cannot change the system. Hell, we can't get 525 elected officials to effectively change it. >You saw, in 2009, how the individual took control and banded together to >form an organization that put the government on notice and had a >dramatic effect on a major piece of legislation. Effect, maybe. An individual making a change. NO. BK
From: bknight on 2 Mar 2010 08:41
On Tue, 2 Mar 2010 07:44:15 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >In article <jv0po5tpu9o8csea3brsi83lug8gumasiu(a)4ax.com>, >bknight(a)conramp.net says... >> >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:47:03 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> >> >In article <lgqoo5plbuimmmsfl95n852l6kfcg2vik7(a)4ax.com>, >> >bknight(a)conramp.net says... >> >> >> >> On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 20:26:02 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >If someone walked into your house and grabbed your wife's jewelry and >> >> >your computer and other valuables so that they could eat would you call >> >> >the police? Would you just let them steal from you? >> >> > >> >> Bert, you really need to do some studying on analogies. This one was >> >> so far off it isn't even funny.....even for you. >> > >> >Stealing is stealing. When you got to a place of business and you have >> >have no intention of paying for the services you receive you are >> >stealing. >> > >> > >> Your analogy was idiotic. Period. > >People receiving free health care are stealing from others. > As usual.....Whoosh. You don't have the mental ability to understand the difference between hyperbole and reasonable argument. BK |