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From: Carbon on 3 Mar 2010 19:14 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 06:40:27 -0800, John B. wrote: > On Mar 3, 12:07 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:55:08 -0800, dene wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4b8dbd26$0$4858$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:42:13 -0800, John B. wrote: >>>> >>>>> In the UK, you may wait for months for elective surgery. If you >>>>> need urgent care, you get it right away. >>>> >>>> Same with Canada. >>> >>> Nice system. A person is in pain, needing a hip or knee >>> replacement, waits months for the surgery. In the meantime, just >>> sock them full of vicodin and watch tv.. >>> >>> I may pay more but it's worth it. >> >> It really isn't. Canada provides healthcare to all its citizens at >> 2/3 the cost of the US system. The system obviously works better, >> because your CIA world fact book says the average life expectancy in >> Canada is more than three years greater than in the US. Similar >> lifestyle and culture. Hmm, I wonder what could account for this >> amazing difference... > > They're not all murdering eachother with handguns. You can't get one > in Canada. I imagine the murder rate is lower there, but not by enough to knock three+ years off the average life expectancy stats.
From: Carbon on 3 Mar 2010 19:15 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:25:27 -0800, dene wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b8dee9d$0$4891$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:55:08 -0800, dene wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4b8dbd26$0$4858$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 10:42:13 -0800, John B. wrote: >>>> >>>>> In the UK, you may wait for months for elective surgery. If you >>>>> need urgent care, you get it right away. >>>> >>>> Same with Canada. >>> >>> Nice system. A person is in pain, needing a hip or knee >>> replacement, waits months for the surgery. In the meantime, just >>> sock them full of vicodin and watch tv.. >>> >>> I may pay more but it's worth it. >> >> It really isn't. Canada provides healthcare to all its citizens at >> 2/3 the cost of the US system. The system obviously works better, >> because your CIA world fact book says the average life expectancy in >> Canada is more than three years greater than in the US. Similar >> lifestyle and culture. Hmm, I wonder what could account for this >> amazing difference... > > We've covered this. The US has a more diverse society than Canada. > The life expectancy is related to people's personal choices (obesity) > than it is with health care. Do you really think people suddenly become less fat on the other side of the border?
From: Carbon on 3 Mar 2010 19:20 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:43:18 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b8deefe$0$4891$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:42:10 -0800, dene wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4b8dc0a8$0$4874$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> >>>> Greg, us responsible, premium paying people are the ones getting >>>> fucked. >>> >>> Yes....by the irresponsible and illegal uninusred. >> >> Wouldn't it be nifty-keen if the deadbeats got hit with a sales tax >> every time they bought smokes and brewskis? > > They already do. For healthcare?
From: Carbon on 3 Mar 2010 19:21 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 08:51:56 -0800, dene wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b8deefe$0$4891$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:42:10 -0800, dene wrote: >>> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>> news:4b8dc0a8$0$4874$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> >>>> Greg, us responsible, premium paying people are the ones getting >>>> fucked. >>> >>> Yes....by the irresponsible and illegal uninusred. >> >> Wouldn't it be nifty-keen if the deadbeats got hit with a sales tax >> every time they bought smokes and brewskis? > > For many, it's the only tax they pay. Exactly.
From: Carbon on 3 Mar 2010 19:23
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:42:39 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b8dc0a8$0$4874$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:05:14 -0800, dene wrote: >>>> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:832ab3b9-3f3e-4d77-8744- >>>> a04857db0098(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... On Mar 2, 1:47 am, >>>> "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:4b8c6a22$0$5085$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:37:36 +0000, assimilate wrote: >>>>>>> On 1-Mar-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to the resident free market market ideologues, your >>>>>>>> situation problem is your fault due to choices you must have >>>>>>>> made in your life. For example, getting a medical condition. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you so don't understand, choices combine with the random nature >>>>>>> of the world to produce consequences. You can't eliminate the >>>>>>> luck of the draw, you can choose to deal with it, but many here >>>>>>> would rather run to the nanny state. >>>>>> >>>>>> You don't seem to have thought this "random nature of the world" >>>>>> justification through very well. It would seem to permit every >>>>>> crime ever conceived of by man. Not to mention that there is >>>>>> absolutely nothing random about getting fucked by your health >>>>>> insurance provider. >>>>> >>>>> Ever occured to you that there are key portions of the Senate and >>>>> House bill that are screwing the health insurance companies? >>>>> >>>>> But what does that matter. It's not your money, is it? >>>> >>>> Aw, poor health insurance companies. I feel terrible for them. >>> >>> Yeah....screw them and the millions of responsible, premium paying >>> people they serve. Where did you acquire this sense of entitlement, >>> John? >> >> Greg, us responsible, premium paying people are the ones getting >> fucked. > > And you will continue to get fucked under Obamacare. So you keep saying. You don't know that for a fact, though. |