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From: Jack Hollis on 4 Mar 2010 11:29 On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:32:28 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >It's hard for me to defend the worst president since Carter....but I will >never agree with you or anybody in saying he is a dumb man. Only a complete ideologue could ignore the objective data that Bush was a man of superior to very superior intelligence.
From: MNMikeW on 4 Mar 2010 11:28 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b8efd89$0$4862$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 09:42:39 -0600, MNMikeW wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4b8dc0a8$0$4874$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 09:05:14 -0800, dene wrote: >>>>> "John B." <johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:832ab3b9-3f3e-4d77-8744- >>>>> a04857db0098(a)u9g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... On Mar 2, 1:47 am, >>>>> "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: >>>>>> "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:4b8c6a22$0$5085$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>>>>>> On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 18:37:36 +0000, assimilate wrote: >>>>>>>> On 1-Mar-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> According to the resident free market market ideologues, your >>>>>>>>> situation problem is your fault due to choices you must have >>>>>>>>> made in your life. For example, getting a medical condition. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> you so don't understand, choices combine with the random nature >>>>>>>> of the world to produce consequences. You can't eliminate the >>>>>>>> luck of the draw, you can choose to deal with it, but many here >>>>>>>> would rather run to the nanny state. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You don't seem to have thought this "random nature of the world" >>>>>>> justification through very well. It would seem to permit every >>>>>>> crime ever conceived of by man. Not to mention that there is >>>>>>> absolutely nothing random about getting fucked by your health >>>>>>> insurance provider. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ever occured to you that there are key portions of the Senate and >>>>>> House bill that are screwing the health insurance companies? >>>>>> >>>>>> But what does that matter. It's not your money, is it? >>>>> >>>>> Aw, poor health insurance companies. I feel terrible for them. >>>> >>>> Yeah....screw them and the millions of responsible, premium paying >>>> people they serve. Where did you acquire this sense of entitlement, >>>> John? >>> >>> Greg, us responsible, premium paying people are the ones getting >>> fucked. >> >> And you will continue to get fucked under Obamacare. > > So you keep saying. You don't know that for a fact, though. You should probably read the CBO report on Obamacare.
From: John B. on 4 Mar 2010 12:47 On Mar 4, 11:29 am, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:32:28 -0800, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > wrote: > > >It's hard for me to defend the worst president since Carter....but I will > >never agree with you or anybody in saying he is a dumb man. > > Only a complete ideologue could ignore the objective data that Bush > was a man of superior to very superior intelligence. I haven't seen that data. Can you tell me where to find it?
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 4 Mar 2010 13:31 On Mar 3, 6:10 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 3, 5:09 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 3, 5:00 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Mar 3, 4:15 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:04:35 -0600, bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > >>Businessmen are smarter than politicians. > > > > > >George Bush was a businessman. > > > > > True, but he was smart enough to get himself elected president twice. > > > > He was also smart enough to know that it's businessmen who made the US > > > > the richest and most powerful nation on earth and it's best to leave > > > > them alone. > > > > If we had left "businessmen" alone, we would not have clean air to > > > breathe, clean water to drink, safe cars to drive, safe food to eat, > > > safe working conditions, building codes, truth in advertising, anti- > > > trust protection, equal opportunity in employment and housing....jeez, > > > I could go on all day. > > > That is simply not true. Mining companies I know of have, on their > > own, reclaimed the land after they left. Some leave a scarred earth, > > some don't. To say that all businessmen are bad like that is akin to > > saying all politicians are corrupt.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > On their own? How do you know they did it on their own? Because a close family member worked for them. The idea was to develop a method of reclaiming these sites that could be sold. It's called doing business; responding to a potential market. It's not the same as responding to the idle concerns of urban deadbeats.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 4 Mar 2010 13:32
On Mar 3, 6:09 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Mar 3, 5:07 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > On Mar 3, 12:22 pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > > > > "William Clark" <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > > > >news:clark-8D24D2.09530403032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > > > > In article <MPG.25f8312054bcd8d6989...(a)news.giganews.com>, > > > > BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > > In article <clark-6883CE.08091703032...(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio- > > > > > state.edu>, cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says... > > > > > > > > Do you know how much of your medical expenses car insurance will > > > cover? > > > > > > > > Thank you. But, for the benefit of the hard of thinking, let's > > > call it > > > > > > > > getting hit by falling masonry while walking in the street. > > > > > > > > > There. Got it now? > > > > > > > > Fine. If there is no liability insurance to cover the accident > > > first, > > > > > > > then > > > > > > > one's health insurance will take over. > > > > > > > > If you don't have it, get it. > > > > > > > > -Greg > > > > > > > Provided you can afford it. > > > > > > Provided they are willing to give up unnecessary luxuries. > > > > > Indeed, I go down to the east side of Columbus and work with single > > > > parent families whose homes are loaded with "unnecessary luxuries", like > > > > Ramen Noodles and such. > > > > > You're a bigoted idiot. > > > > If true, they are on medicaid, aren't they? They are also receiving food > > > stamps and housing allowances. So why are they *choosing* to eat Ramen > > > Noodles? > > > > Laziness?? > > > > -Greg > > > You need to follow some food stamp users into the parking lot. Many of > > them drive new, (current model year) model vehicles. Not all do, mind > > you, but many. People who can pay for their insurance will take the > > free if they can get it, regardless.- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Do you have some knowledge or experience to back this up? When I was > in college in Boston, I worked in a grocery store in a poor > neighborhood where lots of people were on food stamps. Not a single > one of them drove a new car or had any other luxury items. I've seen it with my own eyes. Do your own experiment at a local Walmart. You will see the same thing. |