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From: Carbon on 17 Feb 2010 11:17 On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:32:05 -0600, Moderate wrote: > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >> >> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. There >> were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the waiting room. >> I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No treatment was performed. >> The cost: around $500. > > Doesn't sound like it was an emergency. Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday event.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 17 Feb 2010 12:45 On Feb 17, 12:57 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 04:38:52 +0000, assimilate wrote: > > On 16-Feb-2010, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > >>>> It's a nice fantasy, appealing in its brainless simplicity: > >>>> Liberals blow money and Conservatives do not. > > >>> You're the simple one, as those are your words. I've stated many > >>> times and in great detail how to lower healthcare costs. What you > >>> call reform will not do it. It goes against the basic laws of > >>> economics. > > >> Back here on planet earth, what I call reform is what is otherwise > >> known as universal healthcare. Everywhere it has been implemented (in > >> the first world at least) it has been much less expensive per capita > >> than US healthcare and has also produced better results in the form > >> of average life expectancy > > > But you can't say what their systems would be if they had not gone > > down the economy stifling path of UHS now can you? Can you tell me > > that Britain's NHS won't implode under the weight of bommer aging? It > > is already showing stress. Life expectancy does not relate exclusively > > to healthcare, if fact, after the 1st few fragile years of life, it is > > almost divorced from it. > > Economy stifling? Bill, what the hell are you talking about? The US > system is the most expensive in the world by far. Countries with > rational healthcare systems have a lot less to worry about than the US > does. So what is US health care costs more? If the American people want it that way, that's the way it should be. As it is, I can go to any doctor I want, and even within insurance plans, I only pay more for a doctor out of the plan, and am not prohibited from seeing any doctor I can arrange to see. I can also get a procedure, second, third, fourth opinion as I wish, not having such things dictated to me by the govt. If that costs more, it's worth it to me. Add onto that that Americans develop all the new treatments, and again, it's worth it. Beats being some poor Canadian waiting around for an appointment at their one and only family care physician! The "high cost of health care" is only a problem for government.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 17 Feb 2010 12:46 On Feb 17, 11:17 am, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:32:05 -0600, Moderate wrote: > > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message > >news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > > >> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. There > >> were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the waiting room.. > >> I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No treatment was performed. > >> The cost: around $500. > > > Doesn't sound like it was an emergency. > > Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday event. You think that sort of thing doesn't happen in Canada...of course you pay the $500.00 up front, before you visit the emergency room, and you pay regardless if you ever see an emergency room!
From: dene on 17 Feb 2010 12:58 "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote: > > I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. There > were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the waiting room. I > talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No treatment was performed. The > cost: around $500. Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the same." -Greg
From: Moderate on 17 Feb 2010 13:39
"Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message news:4b7c169f$0$31033$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... > On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 07:32:05 -0600, Moderate wrote: >> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message >> news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com... >>> >>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. There >>> were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the waiting room. >>> I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No treatment was performed. >>> The cost: around $500. >> >> Doesn't sound like it was an emergency. > > Obviously, that totally misses the point. The point would be the > systemic corruption that makes such gross overbilling an everyday event. Now you know how the insurance companies feel :-) |