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From: BAR on 5 Mar 2010 13:44 In article <1f0109ad-e416-4fbf-a77f- 75e830fcc01e(a)i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Mar 5, 12:39�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > In article <shf2p55j3ubip8uki7ho5urrb8fi3f2...(a)4ax.com>, > > bkni...(a)conramp.net says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:45:25 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > > > > > >In article <9d82377e-55c0-412c-a69f-fde7afa47730 > > > >@b30g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > >> > > A great president? Let's look objectively at how things were at the > > > >> > > end of the Clinton administration and how things were at the end of > > > >> > > Bush. At the end of Clinton there was a budget surplus, we were at the > > > >> > > end of the longest persion of economic growth in US history, we were > > > >> > > at peace, crime had fallen nationwide, unemployment was low and the > > > >> > > United States was sitting on top of the world. At the end of Bush, we > > > >> > > were in two wars, there was a $1.7 trillion deficit, a financial > > > >> > > crisis and a severe recession, high unemployment, and America's > > > >> > > standing in the world had fallen to an all-time low. All in all, the > > > >> > > country was in worse shape than at anytime since WWII. But Bush was a > > > >> > > great president, huh? > > > > > >> > Clinton is lucky that the economy didn't start to tank prior to March of > > > >> > 1999.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > >> > - Show quoted text - > > > > > >> Is that really the best you can do? You guys aren't doing a very good > > > >> job of hodling up your side. > > > > > >The president does not contorl the economy. > > > > > Then how can you assess blame there to Obama? > > > > Success has a thousand fathers, failure is an orphan. > > > > Obama is blaming everything on Bush, why can't I blame some things on > > Obama? Political rhetoric is grounded in reality.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Political rhetoric is grounded in reality? My gosh, now I HAVE heard > everything. Should have been is not grounded in reality.
From: dene on 5 Mar 2010 14:03 <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:hef2p5doi9aipoqf278itqjrgsj9r06tm4(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 10:01:47 -0500, BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote: > > >In article <7q52p5luie8jdioporeooupuupe7e1ltq4(a)4ax.com>, > >bknight(a)conramp.net says... > >> > >> On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 20:53:22 -0500, Jack Hollis <xsleeper(a)aol.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> >On Thu, 4 Mar 2010 09:47:45 -0800 (PST), "John B." > >> ><johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> >>On Mar 4, 11:29=A0am, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> >>> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:32:28 -0800, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> > >> >>> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> >It's hard for me to defend the worst president since Carter....but I wil= > >> >>l > >> >>> >never agree with you or anybody in saying he is a dumb man. > >> >>> > >> >>> Only a complete ideologue could ignore the objective data that Bush > >> >>> was a man of superior to very superior intelligence. =A0 > >> >> > >> >>I haven't seen that data. Can you tell me where to find it? > >> > > >> > > >> >Bush's SAT score (pre 1974) was 1206. As you might expect, his 566 in > >> >verbal was well below his 640 in math. > >> > > >> >In any case, this score converts to an IQ of around 127 to 132 which > >> >is in the superior to very superior range. > >> > > >> >http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/Pre1974SAT.aspx > >> > > >> >BTW, JFK scored a 119 on the Otis IQ test when he was tested for > >> >admission to a private high school. > >> > >> > >> Did you ever compare Gore's SAT scores to Bush? They were higher. Do > >> you think that he's of superior intelligence? Probably not, and that > >> would be a real sign of ideology with you. > >> > >> We all know that IQs and SAT scores don't relate to worldly > >> intelligence. Go to a Mensa meeting sometime and you'll see that in > >> an instance. The bottom line is that Bush is a dolt. > >> > >> Incidentally, Carter's IQ was 176 and he was the second worst > >> president in my lifetime. > > > >Carter is the worst US president ever. > > > Nope....Bush has that honor. > > BK I think if Carter had served 8 years, he'd be in first place in your book. -Greg
From: dene on 5 Mar 2010 14:04 <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:mg62p59ohnij906q1qdgfegkniq37a49dn(a)4ax.com... > >> > >Wait till you see the debt when Obama leaves. > > Look at the deficit that he started with, and he continued on the same > path as Bush. Do you think McCain would've done anything different? > > BK Yes. For one thing, he wouldn't be ramming another entitlement down America's throat. -Greg
From: dene on 5 Mar 2010 14:11 <bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message news:f5fvo514fneb96k0td6o1d2jrifjlfh956(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:32:28 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> > wrote: > >It's hard for me to defend the worst president since Carter....but I will > >never agree with you or anybody in saying he is a dumb man. > > > >-Greg > > > If you ever met him face-to-face you'd see. > > BK Karl Rove's experience in knowing Bush for 40 years contradicts your one time encounter with him. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35723068/ns/today-today_people/ -Greg
From: bknight on 5 Mar 2010 14:40
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 11:11:51 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote: > ><bknight(a)conramp.net> wrote in message >news:f5fvo514fneb96k0td6o1d2jrifjlfh956(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:32:28 -0800, "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> >> wrote: > >> >It's hard for me to defend the worst president since Carter....but I will >> >never agree with you or anybody in saying he is a dumb man. >> > >> >-Greg >> > >> If you ever met him face-to-face you'd see. >> >> BK > >Karl Rove's experience in knowing Bush for 40 years contradicts your one >time encounter with him. > >http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35723068/ns/today-today_people/ > >-Greg > Rove? LOL BK |