From: MNMikeW on

"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
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> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote:
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>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. There
>> were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the waiting room. I
>> talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No treatment was performed. The
>> cost: around $500.
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> Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the same."
>
Liberalism has NEVER taught that. It's all class warfare, all the time.


From: gray asphalt on

"dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
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>> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:27:03 -0500, BAR wrote:
>> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41489(a)newsfe08.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
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>> Great! I'd like healthcare that covers me for every possible illness
>> with no upfront co-pays at less than 2/3 of what I'm paying now, with no
>> exclusions for pre-existing conditions and where the insurance company
>> can never drop coverage. In return I will agree to Tort reform, such
>> that I will never expect an honest mistake to be equivalent to winning
>> the lottery.
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> Yeah....liberals are great at spending other people's money.
>
> -Greg

And banks, tobacco companies, auto manufacturers,
health insurance companies, oil companies, mortgage
companies, defense industry ... campanies are great at
stealing other people's money. Where's my list? Did I
forget anyone? How about fructose companies ... security
companies ala Blackwater, wall street in general ...
Oh yeah, Madison Avenue, who has created synicism
and deep rooted fear in the basic honesty of the American
people, especially in children who watch false adverstising...
Did I forget media in general?


From: Dinosaur_Sr on
On Feb 17, 2:06 pm, "gray asphalt" <dontwr...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
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> > "Carbon" <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> >news:4b75e854$0$21064$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:27:03 -0500, BAR wrote:
> >> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41...(a)newsfe08.iad>, dontwr...(a)gmail.com
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> >> Great! I'd like healthcare that covers me for every possible illness
> >> with no upfront co-pays at less than 2/3 of what I'm paying now, with no
> >> exclusions for pre-existing conditions and where the insurance company
> >> can never drop coverage. In return I will agree to Tort reform, such
> >> that I will never expect an honest mistake to be equivalent to winning
> >> the lottery.
>
> > Yeah....liberals are great at spending other people's money.
>
> > -Greg
>
> And banks, tobacco companies, auto manufacturers,
> health insurance companies, oil companies, mortgage
> companies, defense industry ... campanies are great at
> stealing other people's money. Where's my list? Did I
> forget anyone? How about fructose companies ... security
> companies ala Blackwater, wall street in general ...
> Oh yeah, Madison Avenue, who has created synicism
> and deep rooted fear in the basic honesty of the American
> people, especially in children who watch false adverstising...
> Did I forget media in general?

How about the govt.?

I suppose the idea you present here is that people are supposed to
provide you with goods and services out of the goodness of their
hearts, as determined by you, while you get paid for what you do!

I can go out and spend say $500.00 on a guitar and maybe feel I got
ripped off a bit...I am required to pay tens of thousands of dollars
to the federal govt...and get exactly what in return?
From: dene on

"gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "dene" <dene(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote in message
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> > "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> > news:4b75e854$0$21064$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
> >> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 07:27:03 -0500, BAR wrote:
> >> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41489(a)newsfe08.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Great! I'd like healthcare that covers me for every possible illness
> >> with no upfront co-pays at less than 2/3 of what I'm paying now, with
no
> >> exclusions for pre-existing conditions and where the insurance company
> >> can never drop coverage. In return I will agree to Tort reform, such
> >> that I will never expect an honest mistake to be equivalent to winning
> >> the lottery.
> >
> > Yeah....liberals are great at spending other people's money.
> >
> > -Greg
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> And banks, tobacco companies, auto manufacturers,
> health insurance companies, oil companies, mortgage
> companies, defense industry ... campanies are great at
> stealing other people's money. Where's my list? Did I
> forget anyone? How about fructose companies ... security
> companies ala Blackwater, wall street in general ...
> Oh yeah, Madison Avenue, who has created synicism
> and deep rooted fear in the basic honesty of the American
> people, especially in children who watch false adverstising...
> Did I forget media in general?

All the ones you mention are ultimately accountable to the consumer. You
have the choice whether you want to do business with them. Do you have that
choice with your taxes? Who is government accountable to? If you think the
voters, then consider why the government is growing 5% while business and
personal revenues are stagnant or shrinking.

-Greg



From: Carbon on
On Wed, 17 Feb 2010 09:58:20 -0800, dene wrote:
> "Carbon" <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:4b7b6ecb$0$4944$9a6e19ea(a)unlimited.newshosting.com...
>> On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:48 -0500, William Clark wrote:
>
>> I can certainly vouch for that. I went to emergency last summer. There
>> were a lot of underclass unemployed looking people in the waiting room.
>> I talked to the doctor for one (1) minute. No treatment was performed.
>> The cost: around $500.
>
> Underclass? I thought liberal dogma teaches that "we're all the same."

If I can smell them from across the waiting room then they are clearly
different from me. If they want to lay around all day and be losers,
that's great. I don't care. But I shouldn't have to get stuck paying for
them. That is exactly what is happening in this broken system. Don't you
think it's wrong?