From: John B. on
On Mar 5, 9:02 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 13:41:33 -0500, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> >In the absence of you providing objective data we will have to rely upon
> >the objective data Jack provided.
>
> There's nothing wrong with that data at all.  Is Bush's IQ 129 like
> the conversion chart shows?  I don't know, but it's a good bet that
> it's somewhere between 126 and 132.
>
> Again, Bush's IQ is in the superior to very superior range.  

Maybe there's nothing wrong with it, but it seems to be all you have.
From: John B. on
On Mar 5, 8:23 pm, Jack Hollis <xslee...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 06:29:54 -0800 (PST), "John B."
>
> <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >Bashing Obama doesn't really bear out your premise that Bush was a
> >"great president." If doing a great job on the foreign policy front
> >means alienating all your allies, then I completely agree with you.
>
> Alienating what allies?  

Are you serious? You really don't know?
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.25fb41aa4b048be6989cb5(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <clark-4B88A9.15470505032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-
> state.edu>, clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu says...
> >
> > In article <MPG.25fb357ca6e29553989cb4(a)news.giganews.com>,
> > BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <7bb525bb-ab48-4091-9092-8da854d01e75
> > > @o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> > > >
> > > > On Mar 5, 2:04�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > > > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > > > > news:mg62p59ohnij906q1qdgfegkniq37a49dn(a)4ax.com...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > >Wait till you see the debt when Obama leaves.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Look at the deficit that he started with, and he continued on the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > path as Bush. � Do you think McCain would've done anything
> > > > > > different?
> > > > >
> > > > > > BK
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes.
> > > > >
> > > > > For one thing, he wouldn't be ramming another entitlement down
> > > > > America's
> > > > > throat.
> > > > >
> > > > > -Greg
> > > >
> > > > How is it that a bill that went through the full legislative process,
> > > > was passed by the House, then passed by the Senate with 60 votes is
> > > > being rammed down our throats?
> > >
> > > The representatives of the people in the House and the Senators are not
> > > listening to their constituents. Support for health care reform in its
> > > current form only has support from 25% of the people, 75% of the people
> > > do not support health care reform in its current form. That is 3 to 1
> > > against what the President, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are trying to
> > > ram down our throats.
> >
> > Indeed, close to 70% of the people want a single payor option, but then
> > it wouldn't be important to you to listen to them, now would it? The
> > only reason support for health care reform in "its current form" seems
> > to be dwindling, is that the "current form" has been so diluted and
> > undercut by the GoP and the health industry lobbyists, that it simply
> > falls way short of what most people want.
>
> Do you have a source for your 70% want a single pay option. This s the
> first I have heard of this desire.

http://tiny.cc/j3dz7
>
> The Democrats have a majority of seats in the House and a majority of
> seats in the Senate. The Democrats could have passed health care without
> a single Republican vote when they had 60 votes in the Senate. You and
> your fellow travelers keep blaming the Republicans and the health
> industry lobbyists but that rings hollow.

Oh, and then you could have screamed about the lack of bipartisanship?
You want it both ways, don't you - you and your Fox News buddies.
>
> The Democrats have no one to blame but themselves.

BS.
From: William Clark on
In article <MPG.25fb4ce6b9c36301989cb6(a)news.giganews.com>,
BAR <screw(a)you.com> wrote:

> In article <ea6c5cb0-d9a9-4c81-ae2f-b3357dbc1462
> @g4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says...
> >
> > On Mar 5, 3:37�pm, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote:
> > > In article <7bb525bb-ab48-4091-9092-8da854d01e75
> > > @o3g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > On Mar 5, 2:04�pm, "dene" <d...(a)remove.ipns.com> wrote:
> > > > > <bkni...(a)conramp.net> wrote in message
> > >
> > > > >news:mg62p59ohnij906q1qdgfegkniq37a49dn(a)4ax.com...
> > >
> > > > > > >Wait till you see the debt when Obama leaves.
> > >
> > > > > > Look at the deficit that he started with, and he continued on the
> > > > > > same
> > > > > > path as Bush. � Do you think McCain would've done anything
> > > > > > different?
> > >
> > > > > > BK
> > >
> > > > > Yes.
> > >
> > > > > For one thing, he wouldn't be ramming another entitlement down
> > > > > America's
> > > > > throat.
> > >
> > > > > -Greg
> > >
> > > > How is it that a bill that went through the full legislative process,
> > > > was passed by the House, then passed by the Senate with 60 votes is
> > > > being rammed down our throats?
> > >
> > > The representatives of the people in the House and the Senators are not
> > > listening to their constituents. Support for health care reform in its
> > > current form only has support from 25% of the people, 75% of the people
> > > do not support health care reform in its current form. That is 3 to 1
> > > against what the President, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid are trying to
> > > ram down our throats.- Hide quoted text -
> > >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
> > I don't know where you got those numbers, but I doubt that more than
> > 10% of Americans even know what the bill's "current form" is. The fact
> > is that Obama made very clear during his campaign that major,
> > substantive health care reform was one of his top priorities. And he
> > was elected. Congress has been working on this legislation for a year.
> > It has been pased by both chambers. That is how democracy works.
> > Nobody is ramming anything down anyone's throat.
>
> You and Clark are some of the most uninformed and laziest people I know
> of. Neither of you keep up with current events.
>
> http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/02/24/cnn-poll-health-care-
> provisions-popular-but-overall-bills-unpopular/?fbid=P48GJGyJjpH
>
> Please do shoot the messenger first. That is what you and Billy do with
> information that contradicts your assumptions.

You really are dumb, aren't you? We have already established that the
current health care bill is unpopular, because it does not go far enough
for those most interested in genuine health care reform.

Still, it will be a start.
From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:33:27 -0800 (PST), "John B."
<johnb505(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>I score well on IQ tests, but I did poorly on the SATs. How does that
>square with his premise? Please try to suppress your urge to respond
>with malice.

My first thought is that there is more stress with SATs. But
different brains work differently. I do great with SATs, but can't
remember faces and names. I do great with "alternative" quizzes,
the type that Will Shortz asks on April 1st, but am poor with word
scramble (at least via the radio). Jeopardy is easy (as long as they
stay away from recent TV shows and music (recent = newer than 1980),
but memorizing scripts is hard.

IQ may be more like athleticism. Who has the highest Athletic
Quotient: The downhill skier gold medallist or the 50k Nordic gold
medallist?

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"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison