From: Carbon on
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:01:24 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote:
> On Mar 9, 3:57 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)> wrote:
>> On Mar 8, 2:51 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)> wrote:
>>> Really? If I get ALS, I would want full time *CARE* in a care
>>> facility with expertise in the area. Someone to come and clean me up
>>> twice a day at home is pretty grim to me. "Home care" is
>>> substandard, cheapo care in cases like this, but it is where you
>>> have to go when the people have to support a useless, politicized
>>> govt bureaucracy and the cost of health care with the money they
>>> earn and spend on health care. FWIW, no need to support the
>>> insurance companies either, IMHO. If you can pay for a house or a
>>> car, you can pay for health care, and people who are too good to
>>> work can sleep in their own bed.
>> I find it absolutely astounding that you would purport to lecture
>> William or me about ALS.  He lost his father and I lost my mother to
>> it. Everything you've said here is bullshit. There is no such thing
>> as a full-time care facility with expertise in ALS. Home care is NOT
>> "cheapo," or substandard. You know absolutely nothing about this
>> disease, or about health care in general, and you'd be well-advised
>> to shut up about it.
> Rubbish. I've seen the home care scam up front and personal. They push
> you out of the hospital ASAP, barely conscious in some instances. Home
> care is an excuse for cut rate care, and the emotional rubbish thrown
> out to support it indicates a cynical, almost evil lack of compassion
> by the system.

How about you just admit that you have no idea about ALS care and we all
move on?
From: Jack Hollis on
On Sun, 7 Mar 2010 21:06:26 -0800 (PST), "John B."
<johnb505(a)> wrote:

>You can say he's continuing Bush's policies. Or you can say, more
>accurately, that he's taking policies that Bush royally screwed up and
>doing them right.

He's continuing Bush's policies because they've been very effective.
From: Jack Hollis on
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:55:24 -0800, Don Kirkman <donsno2(a)>

>>I hope that you don't suffer from mild dyslexia like I do, but why
>>would a weapon that successfully tested February 2001 not be available
>>to Bush?
>Got me--and obviously my dyslexia isn't really mild. :-{

I transpose numbers and letters all the time and I really have to be
careful. I also have trouble remembering and retrieving nouns.
From: Jack Hollis on
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 11:55:24 -0800, Don Kirkman <donsno2(a)>

>All of which underscores my point that rational governmental policies
>and programs don't turn on a dime--Obama's naivete or enthusiasm
>fostered unrealistic expectations about what could be done and how
>soon it could be done. Nevertheless, no matter what happens with
>health care a number of things do seem to be changing somewhat.

So far, Obama hasn't gotten much passed into law, but it looks like
the health care bill will pass through reconciliation. Of course,
when the Republicans get control again, anything that is passed by
reconciliation can be repealed by reconciliation.
From: William Clark on
In article <p5idp5looaunc3gkv7la2sls5k4m02ovhc(a)>,
bknight(a) wrote:

> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:59:51 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr
> <frostback2002(a)> wrote:
> <clip>
> >I am in no way sorry that I don't buy your sanctimonious BS. Some
> >nurse is just that. When one has a serious chronic, degenerative
> >disorder like ALS, a nurse is not qualified to deal with problems that
> >come up. You need a specialist MD, and if you don't know, and you
> >sound like you don't, ALS patients can have a variety of very serious
> >issues develop at any time. You need specialized, qualified people to
> >deal with this, and such care is in fact available in the US to
> >anyone...of course they have to pay for it...and if you have a problem
> >with that then perhaps you should lead the way by providing your
> >relatively worthless service free of charge!
> <clip>
> Good God Rob. How can you, with any degree of integrity, question a
> man who has had ALS in his family? How can you question a man's
> dedication to his father with such a disease? Do you not have a
> scintilla of embarrassment in being such a know-it-all? Are you
> aware that you come off as a callous prick?

Easily (for him), easily again, no, and no.
> In short, this is one of the typical Frostback situations where
> you're caught blowing wind and then attack the person who is much more
> qualified than you in a subject. It never flies.

Next he will be telling us that he has published and attended
conferences in the field of ALS. Just wait.