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From: Howard Brazee on 9 Mar 2010 21:13 On 10 Mar 2010 00:00:19 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> Here in the US we put laws into place so that people, like Billy >> Clark's father, with means would have to spend those means on >> themselves before they dipped into the community pot. > >Earth to Bert: William's father paid for his healthcare ahead of time, >with taxes. That's how it works in the rest of the first world. Heck, that's how insurance works as well. We don't get exactly what we pay for, sometimes getting less, sometimes getting more. -- "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found, than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace to the legislature, and not to the executive department." - James Madison
From: Carbon on 9 Mar 2010 22:51 On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:13:08 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: > On 10 Mar 2010 00:00:19 GMT, Carbon <nobrac(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> > wrote: > >>> Here in the US we put laws into place so that people, like Billy >>> Clark's father, with means would have to spend those means on >>> themselves before they dipped into the community pot. >> >>Earth to Bert: William's father paid for his healthcare ahead of time, >>with taxes. That's how it works in the rest of the first world. > > Heck, that's how insurance works as well. We don't get exactly what > we pay for, sometimes getting less, sometimes getting more. Healthcare in the US is an enormous, profit-based industry that has been specifically exempted from antitrust oversight, with completely predictable results. It's inefficient. Despite being the most expensive healthcare system on the planet, it provides demonstrably poor outcomes for patients.
From: BAR on 10 Mar 2010 08:13 In article <p5idp5looaunc3gkv7la2sls5k4m02ovhc(a)4ax.com>, bknight(a)conramp.net says... > > On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:59:51 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr > <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > <clip> > >I am in no way sorry that I don't buy your sanctimonious BS. Some > >nurse is just that. When one has a serious chronic, degenerative > >disorder like ALS, a nurse is not qualified to deal with problems that > >come up. You need a specialist MD, and if you don't know, and you > >sound like you don't, ALS patients can have a variety of very serious > >issues develop at any time. You need specialized, qualified people to > >deal with this, and such care is in fact available in the US to > >anyone...of course they have to pay for it...and if you have a problem > >with that then perhaps you should lead the way by providing your > >relatively worthless service free of charge! > > <clip> > > Good God Rob. How can you, with any degree of integrity, question a > man who has had ALS in his family? How can you question a man's > dedication to his father with such a disease? Do you not have a > scintilla of embarrassment in being such a know-it-all? Are you > aware that you come off as a callous prick? I stubbed my toe once and it bleed real bad. Big freaking deal. Does it matter whether it was ALS or Alzheimer's or any other seriously debilitating disease? > In short, this is one of the typical Frostback situations where > you're caught blowing wind and then attack the person who is much more > qualified than you in a subject. It never flies.
From: BAR on 10 Mar 2010 08:13 In article <a8a52a7c-38b3-40eb-a826- 2ba0d4767d2e(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb505(a)gmail.com says... > > On Mar 9, 8:06�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > wrote: > > In article <p5idp5looaunc3gkv7la2sls5k4m02o...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > > > > > �bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:59:51 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr > > > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > <clip> > > > >I am in no way sorry that I don't buy your sanctimonious BS. Some > > > >nurse is just that. When one has a serious chronic, degenerative > > > >disorder like ALS, a nurse is not qualified to deal with problems that > > > >come up. You need a specialist MD, and if you don't know, and you > > > >sound like you don't, ALS patients can have a variety of very serious > > > >issues develop at any time. You need specialized, qualified people to > > > >deal with this, and such care is in fact available in the US to > > > >anyone...of course they have to pay for it...and if you have a problem > > > >with that then perhaps you should lead the way by providing your > > > >relatively worthless service free of charge! > > > > > <clip> > > > > > Good God Rob. �How can you, with any degree of integrity, question a > > > man who has had ALS in his family? �How can you question a man's > > > dedication to his father with such a disease? �Do you not have a > > > scintilla of embarrassment in being such a know-it-all? � Are you > > > aware that you come off as a callous prick? > > > > Easily (for him), easily again, no, and no. > > > > > > > > > In short, this is one of the �typical Frostback �situations where > > > you're caught blowing wind and then attack the person who is much more > > > qualified than you in a subject. �It never flies. > > > > Next he will be telling us that he has published and attended > > conferences in the field of ALS. Just wait. > > It's truly incredible. I'd like to strangle him. Nice debating technique.
From: John B. on 10 Mar 2010 09:24
On Mar 10, 8:13 am, BAR <sc...(a)you.com> wrote: > In article <a8a52a7c-38b3-40eb-a826- > 2ba0d4767...(a)q21g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, johnb...(a)gmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > On Mar 9, 8:06 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > In article <p5idp5looaunc3gkv7la2sls5k4m02o...(a)4ax.com>, > > > > bkni...(a)conramp.net wrote: > > > > On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:59:51 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr > > > > <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > <clip> > > > > >I am in no way sorry that I don't buy your sanctimonious BS. Some > > > > >nurse is just that. When one has a serious chronic, degenerative > > > > >disorder like ALS, a nurse is not qualified to deal with problems that > > > > >come up. You need a specialist MD, and if you don't know, and you > > > > >sound like you don't, ALS patients can have a variety of very serious > > > > >issues develop at any time. You need specialized, qualified people to > > > > >deal with this, and such care is in fact available in the US to > > > > >anyone...of course they have to pay for it...and if you have a problem > > > > >with that then perhaps you should lead the way by providing your > > > > >relatively worthless service free of charge! > > > > > <clip> > > > > > Good God Rob. How can you, with any degree of integrity, question a > > > > man who has had ALS in his family? How can you question a man's > > > > dedication to his father with such a disease? Do you not have a > > > > scintilla of embarrassment in being such a know-it-all? Are you > > > > aware that you come off as a callous prick? > > > > Easily (for him), easily again, no, and no. > > > > > In short, this is one of the typical Frostback situations where > > > > you're caught blowing wind and then attack the person who is much more > > > > qualified than you in a subject. It never flies. > > > > Next he will be telling us that he has published and attended > > > conferences in the field of ALS. Just wait. > > > It's truly incredible. I'd like to strangle him. > > Nice debating technique.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - So, you're OK with him lecturing Bill and me about ALS when both our parents died from it and when he knows nothing about it? |