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"Howard Brazee" <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:49:54 GMT, assimilate(a)borg.org wrote:
>
>>One major difference Kenn is that employers fund these benefits from
>>operating revenue and have profit left over after that. As such these
>>benefits are sustainable. The Government must tax or borrow to pay for
>>these
>>benefits. I would rather all insurance de-coupled from employers,
>>including
>>the public sector.
>
> I'd rather see insurance used to pay for disasters, not maintenance.
>
> There is a certain amount of health care most everybody wants to see
> paid for by the state - mainly that involved in preventing epidemics.
>
> But the option doesn't seem to be between paying for the poor or not
> paying for the poor. It seems to be between pretending we aren't
> paying for the poor and acknowledging that we are paying for the poor.
>
> Also - the medical industry is making sure that all of the "reform"
> proposals that can be passed will make it more money.
.... snip

Dr. Brazee, you are correct. And President Obama is
pretending that this isn't happening. Makes choosing
between Rebubs and Dems like choosing between
Exxon and Union Carbide. Names different. Motives
the same.



From: BAR on
In article <ilgdn.19620$4p5.1063(a)newsfe22.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
says...
>
> "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
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> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41489(a)newsfe08.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
> > says...
> >>
> >> I said give me the same options ... can you read?
> >> Feds have to pay for their insurance but the profit
> >> of the insurance is restricted and they have a bunch
> >> of options. I guess this issues isn't important to you.
> >> Tell me why please.
> >
> > You can have all of the health care you pay for, just like you can have
> > all of the food you can pay for, just like you can have all of the house
> > you can pay for, and just like you can have all of the car you can pay
> > for.
> >
> > Nobody is stopping you, now, from obtaining any type, kind or amount of
> > health care except yourself.
>
> Is the part where health care insurers are making a 15% - 20%
> profit on the general public and 1% on federal - is that relevant
> or just another liberal talking point? 8-\

Show me the SEC filings of the Health Insurance companies that are
making 15 to 20 percent profits. I would like to invest in those
companies.
From: gray asphalt on

The whistleblower who testified before
congress said so. That hasn't been disputed.
So if you see the stats in undeniable form
what difference would it make ... oh yeah
You'd invest. Says it all.

"BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ilgdn.19620$4p5.1063(a)newsfe22.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
> says...
>>
>> "BAR" <screw(a)you.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.25df131f2ce10960989b97(a)news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <oy0dn.144819$kQ5.41489(a)newsfe08.iad>, dontwrite(a)gmail.com
>> > says...
>> >>
>> >> I said give me the same options ... can you read?
>> >> Feds have to pay for their insurance but the profit
>> >> of the insurance is restricted and they have a bunch
>> >> of options. I guess this issues isn't important to you.
>> >> Tell me why please.
>> >
>> > You can have all of the health care you pay for, just like you can have
>> > all of the food you can pay for, just like you can have all of the
>> > house
>> > you can pay for, and just like you can have all of the car you can pay
>> > for.
>> >
>> > Nobody is stopping you, now, from obtaining any type, kind or amount of
>> > health care except yourself.
>>
>> Is the part where health care insurers are making a 15% - 20%
>> profit on the general public and 1% on federal - is that relevant
>> or just another liberal talking point? 8-\
>
> Show me the SEC filings of the Health Insurance companies that are
> making 15 to 20 percent profits. I would like to invest in those
> companies.


From: gray asphalt on
If it's $32k, that's an important point.
My friend didn't say anything about that.

"Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote in message
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> "gray asphalt" <dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Just one quesion - ask your elected officials if
>> they have any reason for not giving the American
>> people, me for instance, the same health care
>> options as senators, representatives and federal
>> employees. Harry Reid stubled around and
>> couldn't answer. I bet John Bohner has the same
>> problem. If you are a veteran then nevermind,
>> apparently you already have an excellent program.
>
> Veterans health care is wage based. If your income is above $32,000 you
> get nothing. That is not the deal that many of us signed up for, but
> simply another sacrifice veterans have to make.
>


From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 12 Feb 2010 09:42:00 -0800, "gray asphalt"
<dontwrite(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> Also - the medical industry is making sure that all of the "reform"
>> proposals that can be passed will make it more money.
>... snip
>
>Dr. Brazee, you are correct. And President Obama is
>pretending that this isn't happening. Makes choosing
>between Rebubs and Dems like choosing between
>Exxon and Union Carbide. Names different. Motives
>the same.

I don't know what either party is likely to do to get the votes of
those who voted last time for change.

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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

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