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From: William Clark on 10 Mar 2010 15:47 In article <38cbac17-f899-4138-8521-507a3276b000(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > On Mar 9, 8:13�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > wrote: > > In article <4b96e068$0$5119$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > > > �Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:01:24 -0800, Dinosaur Sr wrote: > > > > On Mar 9, 3:57�pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Mar 8, 2:51�pm, Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > >>> Really? If I get ALS, I would want full time *CARE* in a care > > > >>> facility with expertise in the area. Someone to come and clean me up > > > >>> twice a day at home is pretty grim to me. "Home care" is > > > >>> substandard, cheapo care in cases like this, but it is where you > > > >>> have to go when the people have to support a useless, politicized > > > >>> govt bureaucracy and the cost of health care with the money they > > > >>> earn and spend on health care. FWIW, no need to support the > > > >>> insurance companies either, IMHO. If you can pay for a house or a > > > >>> car, you can pay for health care, and people who are too good to > > > >>> work can sleep in their own bed. > > > > > >> I find it absolutely astounding that you would purport to lecture > > > >> William or me about ALS. �He lost his father and I lost my mother to > > > >> it. Everything you've said here is bullshit. There is no such thing > > > >> as a full-time care facility with expertise in ALS. Home care is NOT > > > >> "cheapo," or substandard. You know absolutely nothing about this > > > >> disease, or about health care in general, and you'd be well-advised > > > >> to shut up about it. > > > > > > Rubbish. I've seen the home care scam up front and personal. They push > > > > you out of the hospital ASAP, barely conscious in some instances. Home > > > > care is an excuse for cut rate care, and the emotional rubbish thrown > > > > out to support it indicates a cynical, almost evil lack of compassion > > > > by the system. > > > > > How about you just admit that you have no idea about ALS care and we all > > > move on? > > > > Never happen,. He can never admit anything - even lying about publishing > > in materials science journals and attending materials science > > conferences. > > It really is amazing how the fact that I have published in the area of > materials science, and attended conferences in that field bugs you. No it doesn't - but trying to misrepresent yourself as having done so does.
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 10 Mar 2010 16:01 On Mar 10, 3:47 pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- state.edu> wrote: > In article > <38cbac17-f899-4138-8521-507a3276b...(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > On Mar 9, 8:13 pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > wrote: > > > In article <4b96e068$0$5119$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:01:24 -0800, Dinosaur Sr wrote: > > > > > On Mar 9, 3:57 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> On Mar 8, 2:51 pm, Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > >>> Really? If I get ALS, I would want full time *CARE* in a care > > > > >>> facility with expertise in the area. Someone to come and clean me up > > > > >>> twice a day at home is pretty grim to me. "Home care" is > > > > >>> substandard, cheapo care in cases like this, but it is where you > > > > >>> have to go when the people have to support a useless, politicized > > > > >>> govt bureaucracy and the cost of health care with the money they > > > > >>> earn and spend on health care. FWIW, no need to support the > > > > >>> insurance companies either, IMHO. If you can pay for a house or a > > > > >>> car, you can pay for health care, and people who are too good to > > > > >>> work can sleep in their own bed. > > > > > >> I find it absolutely astounding that you would purport to lecture > > > > >> William or me about ALS. He lost his father and I lost my mother to > > > > >> it. Everything you've said here is bullshit. There is no such thing > > > > >> as a full-time care facility with expertise in ALS. Home care is NOT > > > > >> "cheapo," or substandard. You know absolutely nothing about this > > > > >> disease, or about health care in general, and you'd be well-advised > > > > >> to shut up about it. > > > > > > Rubbish. I've seen the home care scam up front and personal. They push > > > > > you out of the hospital ASAP, barely conscious in some instances. Home > > > > > care is an excuse for cut rate care, and the emotional rubbish thrown > > > > > out to support it indicates a cynical, almost evil lack of compassion > > > > > by the system. > > > > > How about you just admit that you have no idea about ALS care and we all > > > > move on? > > > > Never happen,. He can never admit anything - even lying about publishing > > > in materials science journals and attending materials science > > > conferences. > > > It really is amazing how the fact that I have published in the area of > > materials science, and attended conferences in that field bugs you. > > No it doesn't - but trying to misrepresent yourself as having done so > does. I have not misrepresented myself. Again, if you believe so, Clarksie has already found the publications, although he doesn't recognize them as such, the American Chemical Society does, and they are in fact an authority whereas he is in fact not! If you want to stand by Clarksie as such a fool, be my guest!
From: Dinosaur_Sr on 10 Mar 2010 16:05 On Mar 10, 11:33 am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- state.edu> wrote: > Er, numbnuts, you DO see a physician - in fact, they come to see you. > And you have the right to a second opinion if you don't like the first. > > Christ on a bike. Really?! You have a "right" to a second opinion! Oh boy! I have a right to as many opinions as I want, but people like you want to take that away from me because it is "unfair" and "wasteful" for me to spend my wealth as I wish, especially on my own health care. What if I have a chronic disorder and want nothing to do with a GP?
From: Moderate on 10 Mar 2010 16:48 "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message news:clark-8359EA.15475510032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > In article > <38cbac17-f899-4138-8521-507a3276b000(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >> >> It really is amazing how the fact that I have published in the area of >> materials science, and attended conferences in that field bugs you. > > No it doesn't - but trying to misrepresent yourself as having done so > does. So why haven't you ever published anything, Willy?
From: William Clark on 10 Mar 2010 17:07
In article <f046482a-d0b6-45b0-b95c-c0e6a934819d(a)b30g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > On Mar 10, 11:33�am, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > state.edu> wrote: > > > Er, numbnuts, you DO see a physician - in fact, they come to see you. > > And you have the right to a second opinion if you don't like the first. > > > > Christ on a bike. > > Really?! You have a "right" to a second opinion! Oh boy! I have a > right to as many opinions as I want, but people like you want to take > that away from me because it is "unfair" and "wasteful" for me to > spend my wealth as I wish, especially on my own health care. That is implicit to all but those as dumb as you. If you don't like the second opinion - you get a third, and so on. Sorry you are so stupid - perhaps you need a mental health check? > > What if I have a chronic disorder and want nothing to do with a GP? "Nothing to do with a GP" meaning? |