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From: William Clark on 10 Mar 2010 17:11 In article <hn943g$1vc$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, "Moderate" <no_spam_(a)no_mail.com> wrote: > "William Clark" <clark(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio-state.edu> wrote in message > news:clark-8359EA.15475510032010(a)charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu... > > In article > > <38cbac17-f899-4138-8521-507a3276b000(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: > >> > >> It really is amazing how the fact that I have published in the area of > >> materials science, and attended conferences in that field bugs you. > > > > No it doesn't - but trying to misrepresent yourself as having done so > > does. > > So why haven't you ever published anything, Willy? I think if you check the journals you will find well over 100 publications with my name on them. In legitimate peer-reviewed journals, not unreviewed one-pagers in some conference proceeding that I wouldn't sully the title of "publication" with..
From: William Clark on 10 Mar 2010 17:14 In article <ca2a9766-adea-46f3-9d06-de40c27c30a4(a)33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback(a)dukesofbiohazard.com> wrote: > On Mar 10, 3:47�pm, William Clark <cl...(a)nospam.matsceng.ohio- > state.edu> wrote: > > In article > > <38cbac17-f899-4138-8521-507a3276b...(a)y17g2000yqd.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > > > �Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > On Mar 9, 8:13�pm, William Clark <wcla...(a)colnospamumbus.rr.com> > > > wrote: > > > > In article <4b96e068$0$5119$9a6e1...(a)unlimited.newshosting.com>, > > > > > > �Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:01:24 -0800, Dinosaur Sr wrote: > > > > > > On Mar 9, 3:57�pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> On Mar 8, 2:51�pm, Dinosaur Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: > > > > > > > >>> Really? If I get ALS, I would want full time *CARE* in a care > > > > > >>> facility with expertise in the area. Someone to come and clean me > > > > > >>> up > > > > > >>> twice a day at home is pretty grim to me. "Home care" is > > > > > >>> substandard, cheapo care in cases like this, but it is where you > > > > > >>> have to go when the people have to support a useless, politicized > > > > > >>> govt bureaucracy and the cost of health care with the money they > > > > > >>> earn and spend on health care. FWIW, no need to support the > > > > > >>> insurance companies either, IMHO. If you can pay for a house or a > > > > > >>> car, you can pay for health care, and people who are too good to > > > > > >>> work can sleep in their own bed. > > > > > > > >> I find it absolutely astounding that you would purport to lecture > > > > > >> William or me about ALS. �He lost his father and I lost my mother > > > > > >> to > > > > > >> it. Everything you've said here is bullshit. There is no such > > > > > >> thing > > > > > >> as a full-time care facility with expertise in ALS. Home care is > > > > > >> NOT > > > > > >> "cheapo," or substandard. You know absolutely nothing about this > > > > > >> disease, or about health care in general, and you'd be > > > > > >> well-advised > > > > > >> to shut up about it. > > > > > > > > Rubbish. I've seen the home care scam up front and personal. They > > > > > > push > > > > > > you out of the hospital ASAP, barely conscious in some instances. > > > > > > Home > > > > > > care is an excuse for cut rate care, and the emotional rubbish > > > > > > thrown > > > > > > out to support it indicates a cynical, almost evil lack of > > > > > > compassion > > > > > > by the system. > > > > > > > How about you just admit that you have no idea about ALS care and we > > > > > all > > > > > move on? > > > > > > Never happen,. He can never admit anything - even lying about > > > > publishing > > > > in materials science journals and attending materials science > > > > conferences. > > > > > It really is amazing how the fact that I have published in the area of > > > materials science, and attended conferences in that field bugs you. > > > > No it doesn't - but trying to misrepresent yourself as having done so > > does. > > I have not misrepresented myself. Again, if you believe so, Clarksie > has already found the publications, although he doesn't recognize them > as such, the American Chemical Society does, and they are in fact an > authority whereas he is in fact not! > > If you want to stand by Clarksie as such a fool, be my guest! Nonsense. Unreviewed conference one-pagers, on which your rank somewhere so far down the author list as to be invisible, do not count as "publications". You should be ashamed of yourself for even trying to pull that stunt, as should the ACS for posing as a "materials science" society. But then, it's the money in the materials science field that they are after. Envy is a terrible thing.
From: Carbon on 10 Mar 2010 19:12 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:44:14 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > On Mar 9, 6:57 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:01:24 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: >>> On Mar 9, 3:57 pm, "John B." <johnb...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Mar 8, 2:51 pm, Dinosaur_Sr <frostback2...(a)att.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Really? If I get ALS, I would want full time *CARE* in a care >>>>> facility with expertise in the area. Someone to come and clean me >>>>> up twice a day at home is pretty grim to me. "Home care" is >>>>> substandard, cheapo care in cases like this, but it is where you >>>>> have to go when the people have to support a useless, politicized >>>>> govt bureaucracy and the cost of health care with the money they >>>>> earn and spend on health care. FWIW, no need to support the >>>>> insurance companies either, IMHO. If you can pay for a house or a >>>>> car, you can pay for health care, and people who are too good to >>>>> work can sleep in their own bed. >>>> >>>> I find it absolutely astounding that you would purport to lecture >>>> William or me about ALS. He lost his father and I lost my mother >>>> to it. Everything you've said here is bullshit. There is no such >>>> thing as a full-time care facility with expertise in ALS. Home care >>>> is NOT "cheapo," or substandard. You know absolutely nothing about >>>> this disease, or about health care in general, and you'd be >>>> well-advised to shut up about it. >>> >>> Rubbish. I've seen the home care scam up front and personal. They >>> push you out of the hospital ASAP, barely conscious in some >>> instances. Home care is an excuse for cut rate care, and the >>> emotional rubbish thrown out to support it indicates a cynical, >>> almost evil lack of compassion by the system. >> >> How about you just admit that you have no idea about ALS care and we >> all move on? > > I see, you have no reply to my post, so you make some unrelated > comment. Enjoy your home care! You deserve it! And if you have to > wait 8 hours for someone to come and empty your bedpan remember, it's > what you wanted! Two people in this thread have had one of their parents die of a horrible degenerative disease. What is wrong with you?
From: Carbon on 10 Mar 2010 19:23 On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:13:13 -0500, BAR wrote: > In article <p5idp5looaunc3gkv7la2sls5k4m02ovhc(a)4ax.com>, > bknight(a)conramp.net says... >> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 13:59:51 -0800 (PST), Dinosaur_Sr >> <frostback2002(a)att.net> wrote: >> >>> I am in no way sorry that I don't buy your sanctimonious BS. Some >>> nurse is just that. When one has a serious chronic, degenerative >>> disorder like ALS, a nurse is not qualified to deal with problems >>> that come up. You need a specialist MD, and if you don't know, and >>> you sound like you don't, ALS patients can have a variety of very >>> serious issues develop at any time. You need specialized, qualified >>> people to deal with this, and such care is in fact available in the >>> US to anyone...of course they have to pay for it...and if you have a >>> problem with that then perhaps you should lead the way by providing >>> your relatively worthless service free of charge! >> >> Good God Rob. How can you, with any degree of integrity, question a >> man who has had ALS in his family? How can you question a man's >> dedication to his father with such a disease? Do you not have a >> scintilla of embarrassment in being such a know-it-all? Are you >> aware that you come off as a callous prick? > > I stubbed my toe once and it bleed real bad. Big freaking deal. Does > it matter whether it was ALS or Alzheimer's or any other seriously > debilitating disease? If someone in your family came down with ALS or Alzheimer's you would see things very differently, I can assure you. I'm surprised at your shallowness.
From: Carbon on 10 Mar 2010 19:26
On Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:59:58 -0800, Dinosaur_Sr wrote: > On Mar 9, 10:51 pm, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:13:08 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote: >>> On 10 Mar 2010 00:00:19 GMT, Carbon <nob...(a)nospam.tampabay.rr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Earth to Bert: William's father paid for his healthcare ahead of >>>> time, with taxes. That's how it works in the rest of the first >>>> world. >>> >>> Heck, that's how insurance works as well. We don't get exactly >>> what we pay for, sometimes getting less, sometimes getting more. >> >> Healthcare in the US is an enormous, profit-based industry that has >> been specifically exempted from antitrust oversight, with completely >> predictable results. It's inefficient. Despite being the most >> expensive healthcare system on the planet, it provides demonstrably >> poor outcomes for patients. > > Really, so a person has cancer in the US vs a person has cancer in the > UK. On average, what happens? Treatment in the US costs way more. |